RedRamage

We need to see if his socks are high or not.

I don't think that's the case. First let me just say that I don't think Jamo is getting traded. Not sure if the rumor came from the Lions or not, but if it did it was likely all a smoke screen. If it didn't, the Lions sure weren't going to dispel the rumors as it added confusion for people trying to figure our their plans. That said, anyone who might want to trade for Jamo would undoubtedly want his 5th year locked up. That makes him a more attractive trade chip.

And there goes my dream of the "All Campbell" team. 🥹

Is DT really the biggest need though? I'd say DE is a much higher need. Sure DT is a need, but you have guys who can play there. Now, I'm probably way over analyzing what was likely a semi-joke of a reply, but I don't see this as a pick to fill the biggest hole. Imho, DE and OG are bigger needs with DT probably slotting in at 3rd. Not the rehash an argument (which means I'm gonna rehash an argument), but yeah... needs should always be taking into account. It's not a question of IF, but of HOW MUCH, does the need influence the selection. Holmes has shown that it matters a lot less for him than for most GMs. To directly respond to last years draft: Yeah, CB was a huge need, but not the only one by far. So once we filled CB it would make sense to address other needs, right? But Holmes goes back to CB in the second round. Okay, I'll step off the soap box responding to a tongue-in-check reply now. Feel free to laugh at me for over analyzing at this time.

I wouldn't think so. I also heard Matt Dery on Locked on Lions question if DJ Reader gets cut. He's was only speculating not predicting, but I guess I wouldn't be shocked. Reader wasn't phenomenal in '24 and he's making a lot of money. On the other hand McNeill is likely not going to be ready for opening day and I don't think the Lions are desperate for cap space either so I don't think he'll be cut... just won't be super duper shocked if it happened.

Pretty much my thoughts. I mean at 28 I'm not expecting to be blown away with a "franchise changing player," but I thought there were other more pressing needs with equally quality options at those positions... but... It's pretty much impossible to argue with Holmes track record. Sure, not every pick is a star, but he's gotten it right far more than he's gotten it wrong in an field were I suspect the getting it right just 50% of the time is fantastic.

Crap... I was kinda hoping that the Lions would get Zabel.

At this point I just want the Lions to trade in front of the Packers. The content from Grossi would be worth it.

I got a friend who's a Bears fan. He's say that the Bears might run double TE sets alot and/or that they'd use him a slot receiver. Seems very Ebrone-ish...

3 OTs in the first 10 picks.

I suppose there's a possibility that Travis Hunter really ends up a 2-way star and if you get a star level WR and a star level CB it would probably be worth that kind of trade, but that's a looooooot of eggs in one basket.

What the heck?!? That's a deal I would have expected Matt Millen to do... wow!

What was the trade?

Also, in case you haven't seen it:

I continue to be amazed at how differently I feel about the draft vs. just a few years ago. I mean the draft used to be this HUGE thing. We'd all be speculating... wondering about trades, thinking who might fall a few spots. Hoping the next first round pick in the top 10 (where the Lions often picked) was going to be the savior of the franchise. Now I keep forgetting that the draft starts Thursday. Look at our 2022 Draft thread: https://www.motownforums.com/topic/99-2022-nfl-draft-thread/page/58/#comments More than 57 pages of posts BEFORE the draft started! Now, 1.5 days from the start of this years draft and we don't even have 10 pages yet. I know the old joke was always about how the Draft was the Lions' Super Bowl... but man... being on the "other side" now (ie, having a good team) it feels like there really was a lot of truth to that joke.

100% in agreement. I don't want to trade Jamo right now because there's no real value in it. No one is going to give up anything higher than a 3rd and even with Holmes drafting ability I don't see a 3rd making a significant impact THIS YEAR. On a side note... I think Homes.com needs to reach out to Brad for an ad deal. I mean if they can't legally use homesisthebest.com, they probably CAN use holmesisthebest.com. Just saying... seems like a winning plan to me.

Would it have even been possible to house three Campbells on the same team??

Bummer, but can't say as I'm surprised. I know we batted around the idea of increasing the yardage on this penalty to slightly off set losing the auto-1st down. Does anyone know if the Lions proposal had that? I don't think it did but didn't know for 100% sure. If it didn't, I wonder if including that would have had more people in favor of it?

It was a nice opening game for the Panthers. The defense showed up and limited the opposition to just one TD and a couple of FGs. The offense wasn't always stellar, but two TDs, two FGs were enough to win, even without the defense pick six. I'd say that QB Bryce Perkins, late of the LA Rams, was the star of the game. 16 for 19, 163 yards, one TD in the passing game, and then 14 yards on 6 attempt on the ground, including an Barry Sanders-eque run on 4th down, evading tacklers to dive into the endzone. On defense Frank Ginda (2023 USFL defensive player of the year) had 11 tackles and half a sack, and of course Kia Nacua (brother of Samson Nacua, Michigan Panthers; and Puka Nacua, LA Rams) had the late pick six to really seal the game. A new other notes: Michigan has historically alternated QBs each quarter or half. They intended to do that again this game but QB Danny Etling only saw a few snaps after taking a big hit to the chest. The hit would have been legal (ie, it wasn't roughing the QB or a late hit or a hit to the head) except the defender lowered his helmet and speared Etling in the chest. Etling didn't appear to have major injuries, but also didn't return to the game. I thought Perkins was the better QB in the game anyway, so I wasn't too upset over that. During the broadcast they continuously hammered how much access the viewer was given as they interviewed players, HCs, OCs, DCs, and of course head rules bigshot Dean Blandino. I'd say on maybe about 4 or 5 occasions I thought it was informative and helpful to the viewer. The rest of the time it was very distracting for me. It was hard to follow the game when the announcers were asking questions and I was trying to figure out who was answering and what he was saying. It was too much access imho. Fan turn out was... HORRIBLE. It looked like a COVID game. Seriously, it was BAD. I hope Michigan fans turn out better for next weeks game but Memphis fans? I think there were more players in that stadium than fans.

Has anyone else complained that is stinks that the first series of the year is super late at night? Just wanted to get that off my chest because I'm sure no one else has complained yet.

Playoffs are for division winners. Win your division and you're in the playoffs. Wild card berths are just consolation prizes for the teams that weren't quite good enough to win their division but still had a pretty decent year. If you want to just take the best 7 teams, then get rid of divisions as divisional standing are meaningless and playing your divisional team mates twice can end up being a good or bad thing depending on the rest of the division. I mean who knows if Chicago might not have had a better record if they didn't have to face Detroit, GB, and Minny twice.

I disagree personally. The (relatively speaking) short season and limited opponents face makes division winners important. The goal is to win the division. The wild card slots are just extra slots for teams that are really good, but not good enough to win their divisions. Yes, you'll absolutely have situations where a really good team like the Vikings has to go on the road vs. a team with a worse record, but those are rare. And it's even more rare when there's such a clear case that you could argue that the team with that record also faced some of the stiffest competition (in division).

Ah man... here I was getting pumped to see MASCOTS.

ESPN has started coverage.

Youtube is now saying 2:30.