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That's cool. I loved Bell when he was playing. When it seemed like all the other backs we had would try and juke and jump and dodge and twist and try to get 10, 15, or 20 yards but would end up, more often than not, being tackled at or behind the line, Bell just powered through and tried to get 3-5 yards and make a positive play.

Found a video breaking down the 5 INTs. Not sure how accurate the analysis is, but you can see all 5 INTs here. First was on a screen pass that Houston seemed to have sniffed out. A defender makes and perfectly timed jump to tip the pass and another defender makes an incredible diving play to get the INT. At best 10% Goff's fault. Second was on a play where the a defender ran around out left tackle, hit Goff has he threw the ball bounces off a couple of lineman and takes a fluke bounce right into the hands of another defender running up towards the play. I'd say maybe 2% Goff's fault. Third was a Hail Mary at the end of the half. Yeah there was a good chance that it would get intercepted, but that's understood... it's Low Risk, High Reward. It's low risk because it's the end of the half. Best case you score. Worst case the defense gets an INT and runs the ball ALL the way back for a score (EXTREMELY unlikely). Most likely the play ends with no score and then it doesn't matter one bit how the play ended. INT? Incomplete? Caught but downed outside of the EZ? Functionally it's all the same. 0% Goff's fault. Fourth was a deep ball to Jamo where it doesn't seem like Jamo was expecting the ball at all. It wasn't a great thrown by Goff but again Jamo just doesn't seem like he's expecting it... he's certainly not looking for it until way too late. Without knowing more about if Jamo didn't run a good route or if Goff's pass didn't go exactly where he wanted it or what it's hard to assign blame, so I'm gonna go with 50-50 on Goff, but then error on the side of over blaming: 60% Goff's fault. Fifth was a medium range pass to LaPorta. The video narrator points out that LaPorta ran into some contact from the defenders and so his route was slowed down and Goff didn't take that into account when he threw the ball. This seems valid and so I'm going to mostly assign the blame here to Goff. Again erroring on the side of over blaming: 90% Goff's fault. So, by my scientifically rigorous evaluation of Goff's Interceptions, he's 32.4% to blame on average. So really Goff only threw one and a half interceptions in the game.

Well "best" is somewhat subjective. "Win Total" is a product of skill and longevity. If you're just good enough that an overtly loyal owner doesn't get annoyed enough or feel pressure from fans enough to fire you, then you can rack up a pretty decent win total. If we did it based on regular season winning percentage, minimum of 10 games as head coach, then we get: .667 Parker (47/23) .636 Clark, Dutch (14/8) .624 Clark, Potsy (53/25) .563 Caldwell (36/28) .554 Schmidt (43/34) .542 Campbell (32/27) .538 Wilson (53/45) .496 Fontes (66/67) On a side note, I just looked up the NFL coaching list based on win total and Fontes is tied with two others for #74 on that list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_head_coach_wins_leaders. Shout out to Norm Van Brocklin, one of the coaches tied with Fontes. Norm obviously have 66 wins but he's got that paired with 100 losses, giving him a .398 winning percentage... the worst of any of the top 100 winningest coaches.

I mean... the joke is writes itself right?? I'm not the only one right?

I had to look it up because I thought I remembered Trubisky being kinda a reach and most people not being high on him. But looking up him up and he was rated pretty high coming into the draft... pro-bowl talent, NFL comparison of Stafford. A 7.0 on a 0-8 grading scale. So not as much of a reach as I thought. Looking back at the 2017 draft is interesting. Mahomes was drafted 10th over all. 9 teams passed on him. At least the Lions weren't one of them. They picked 21st that year and got the first round stud (checks notes) um... LB Jarrad Davis?

I think you're generally correct. McCarthy's injury may end up being a blessing in disguise for him and the Vikings. That said, I think there are also plenty of examples of rookie QBs thrown into the fire who've put together pretty good careers. Just look at Stafford for one... or Goff (technically he sat for half a season). So Williams isn't necessarily ruined because he's played his rookie season, but I also don't think it helps him. I would have been better if he could have sat.

I would agree on both accounts... though "largest attended" is somewhat nebulous given that I think every SB is sold out. But that's nitpicking. As for the Lions/Chiefs... this is only to be expected. I mean I remember when the Tigers started winning the Central regularly. 2006 was magical and new and exciting... 2011 and pretty cool... 2014 was fun, but it wasn't the same feeling. I'm sure this is where Chiefs fans are right now. After 6 straight AFC conference appearances, 4 times making the SB, it still cool but doesn't have the same magic that I'm sure it did in 2019.

Yeah I'd forgotten that the Texans were the ones who gave Bates the try out and then cut him before he went to the UFL.

Watching "Calls of the Game" and noticed something interesting... look at the Texans' OL right before the snap at this point in the video: https://youtu.be/ltZdyVSQegs?t=124 Are my eyes deceiving me or are the Texans doing the thing where you're the away team and the guard lets the center know when the QB is ready because it's too loud from the fans for the center to hear?

I like to think that the Lions beat down is the reason they are worse than expected. We broke them.

Did they show that last night? That's funny. Do you wanna know the break down of those losses over the 3.5 years of Campbell? 2021: 7 2022: 3 2023: 2 2024: 0 So the Lions got blown out a bunch when Campbell was first here... since then they've rarely been blown out by a lot. The graphic paints it like if the Lions get down they fall apart... but the reality is that our 2021 team just sucked and since then we're been pretty dang good. I mean if you take out 2021 -- Dan's rookie coaching year (I'm not including his interim gig with the Dolphins), Holmes hasn't really gotten a chance to make over the roster... so not completely unfair to just say 2021 is a lost year and not a good job of the people running the show -- Any, take out 2021... the Lions are 29-14 in the regular season, plus 2-1 in the playoffs. That's pretty damn good.

Also gotta say... watching the highlights of this game... if you didn't know any better you'd swear it was a home game witht he way the crowd sounds.

Maybe... probably?? Right now Campbell has a .534 winning percentage. If we assuming some leaner years will happen (injuries, retiring stars, whatever), let's say he goes .500 from now until he reaches win number 67. That's 36 more wins plus of course 36 more losses, or 72 more games. 8 more games this season means 64 more after this, or around 4 more years. 4 more years seems doable as a HC. Campbell's certainly not old, but and he definitely seems to have a love for the game so I don't seem him deciding to suddenly hang it up.

Dan Campbell is now one of only eight Lions coaches who have 30 or more wins. And on a side note if I had a nickel for every Lions head coach who was named Clark I'd have 15 cents... which isn't a lot of it's odd that it's happened three times. 66 - Fontes 53 - Clark, Potsy 53 - Wilson 47 - Parker 43 - Schmidt 43 - Clark, Monte 36 - Caldwell 31 - Campbell Edit to add: These are regular season wins btw. Wanna look at post season? It ain't pretty... 3 - Parker 2 - Wilson 2 - Campbell 1 - Clark 1 - Fontes

Okay, yeah, technically it'll be a neutral field... but if the Lions make the SB I expect it to be the most lopsided crowd in a long time. First, I suspect there will be a LOT of Lions fans who put up the big bucks to go. How many years have we been waiting? Second, I suspect the Lions would be the preferred rooting interest of most of the fans of the other 30 teams that aren't there.

What did he say?

It's kinda funny... because I wasn't even really angry that we were losing. I mean I wasn't happy and it wasn't that I thought we'd come back and win... It was just: "Meh... bad games happen." I heard this said about baseball but honestly it applies to all sports I think: It's the fans of the mediocre teams that are most invested in the wins and losses. Fans of a bad team assume losses will happen and if they win: "Well, that's nice, but that isn't like we're all of a sudden good." Fans of a good team assume a win, but if they lose: "Well, bad games happen. We'll get back on the winning side next game." It's just the people in the middle who feel the outcome of the game is defining if their team is good or bad because it matters each game. I'm not saying this to try to trash on those fans who are like that of middle of the road teams. Lord knows I've been that fan many, many times. No, the reason I'm saying this is that I 100% felts like a fan of a good team last night. I certainly wasn't happy that the Lions were getting their butt whopped, but I never thought: "There goes the season... our team sucks." It's amazing how far we've come in 4 years.

Bears gave up 9 sacks and 13 Tackles for a Loss. 21 times the Patroits... the Patroits! ...were making tackles inside the Bears OL. I mean... holy crap thats bad. Prior to the Bears game the Pats had a total of 16 sacks... they averaged 1.78 sacks per game in the previous 9 games. This one game jumped their average to 2.5 sacks per game. Packers fans gotta be just pissed right now. All three other teams in the North had pretty crappy games. The Vikings didn't even manage a TD against the Jags, the Bears OL apparently thought this was their bye week, and the Lions were getting their butts handed to them in the first half. And yet somehow only the Bears lost.

Really SOLs would have been the Lions being the others side... dominate a team in the first half... 5 INTS, and still lose.

Everyone was complaining that he was too close to the right upright, so... ya know... he corrected that.

Well... time to see if this coaching staff can make second half adjustments.

Yes but I believe he also played LT in the preseason too.

I dunno if that's a good idea. Decker was out for the rest of the season then I'd put Sewell over there, but if he's only going to be out a game leave Sewell where he is, where he knows the plays at his position.

We could put Iffy in a roll of pass-rushing linebacker??