RedRamage

The Titans become the first team to face the Lions and then WIN their game the next week this year. But, it sorta makes sense. The Lions didn't do that much punishing on offense because they just didn't need too. I mean TOTAL of 94 yards through the air. And on the ground if we take out the 70 yard run from Gibbs, the Lions ran for a TOTAL of 94 yards. Their offense may have been banged around a bit but defensively they were probably pretty fresh.

Lions remaining schedule... now of course: Any Given Sunday and injuries might be a factor, etc. etc. etc. But, on paper: @ Texans: The Texans are good and it's at their place, but Lions will have Jamo back and hopefully some DL help. This won't be an easy win, but I think the Lions are the better team and enough better that they can make up for it being a road game. On paper: Win. Jaguars: A 2-7 team coming to Detroit. On paper: Win. @ Colts: They may not be horrible, but they're also not good. On paper: Win. Bears: After some early success, Bears are falling off a bit. Like the Colts they're not horrible, but they're also not good and it'll be in Detroit. On paper: Win. Packers: If they get healthy, especially on defense, they may be tougher. But the Lions also played without Jamo, without Branch for most of the game, and may have some defense help coming via trade, so that should offset the Packers possible gains via healthy people. Plus we beat them in their house, now they have to come here. On paper: Win. Bills: 7-2, but they're coming to Detroit. I haven't watched much Bills this year so this is hard to say. This may be one of the tougher teams we're facing this year down the stretch. Still, the Lions have a better record right now and this will be a home game. It's close and will depend on a LOT of factors between now and then, but right now... On paper: Win. @ Bears: We'll have to see what the Bears do between now and then. Do they find themselves and start putting it together? If so, then maybe this is a tough outdoor contest. However, right now it doesn't look like that will happen. On paper: Win. @ 49ers: The 9ers had some injury issues, but so have the Lions. If they get their weapons back and get on a roll this will have to be re-evaluated. However we can only go based on what we know right now. On paper: Win. (But! I reserve the right to re-evaluate later.) Vikings: We beat them in Minnesota, we should be able to beat them at home. On paper: Win. It would not shock me if the Lions win out. I'm not predicting it because there are going to be lots and lots of things happening. But purely looking at it on paper, it's reasonable to expect a win in each remaining game.

Goff has averaged just 115 passing yards the last two games. Maybe the Lions should trade Goff for some defensive help and see what Hooker can do.

The green mouth guard stuck in the helmet would be a give-away.

My wife even commented on it!

I hope now.

Screw you refs, we still got Kerby!

Can't prevent the NFL from ejecting teammates.

I think you'd have a hard time even calling that targeting. He was dropping into the hit, not launching himself. Bad hit? Yes. Foul, Yes. Ejection? Come on...

That it was a foul? Absolutely. You, unfortunately, see hits like this in pretty much any game. It was a bad hit, Branch should do better. But I've NEVER see an ejection for something as (relatively speaking here) benign as this.

Wow... what a freaking joke! Unbelievable. Just the Lions weren't committed enough penalties so they had to eject someone.

I would hate that. 😞 I want him in the AFC. Wait, check that... I want him in the CFL. Yeah, that's a good place for him if he isn't here as our OC.

I don't think there is ANY chance that Ben Johnson goes to the Jets this year. ZERO. That team is in worse shape right now than the Lions ever were (except maybe during the decade of despair). Ben will likely get looked at again this off season and he'll likely get offers but given that he's returned twice it's obvious that he's not going to jump for just any available vacancy. He's looking for the right place. The Jets ain't it.

I don't think even Matt Millen would consider that for more than 2 seconds. Holy crap that would instantly become the new worst trade in NFL history. I mean even if the Lions won a super bowl this year because of this trade I'd consider it an awful trade.

Not that I'm counting down or anything, but 126 hours, 25 minutes left.

I'm probably grossly reading way too much into things based on limited info, but it feels like Jamo's admitting these mistakes and admitting that he's wrong when this stuff happens. It's a case of: "Yeah, I was dumb, I was wrong... I'm sorry, I screwed up coach. I'll do better, I promise." vs: "Man, I didn't do anything wrong. The cops/league/drug testers are out to get me. It's not my fault." The first attitude will buy you a lot of leniency and good will with the team and they'll be willing to work with you where as the second attitude will get you shown the door pretty quickly. But to your point, NYLion, each time you have to come to them with the first attitude the leniency and good will you can purchase gets smaller and smaller.

Folks just a general warning here: We're straying very close to a political issue here re: How the cops handled Jamo. I don't think anyone has cross over the political line, but we're all (myself included) inching up to it. I mean it's kinda hard not to given this situation. BUT: There is a reason we have a political forum area and there's a reason we keep politics in that area. Let's try to keep the discussion on the Jamo/Lions aspect of this as much as possible and be ultra-polite with each other when we do touch on the "other" stuff.

I think it's important to look at the two aspects of this incident separately... just like with the gambling issue. Re the gambling: Part A: Did Jamo break a rule? Was he responsible to the consequences of that? Was he dumb/immature to not make sure he clearly understood the rules before gambling? Yes on all accounts. Part B: Was it a stupid rule that says "It's perfectly okay to do this if you're standing right here, but it's 1/3 of a season suspension if you take one step over this invisible line and do that same thing right there"? Also yes. In the same way: Part A: Is it dumb/immature to not make sure you understand the firearms laws before you go out with a concealed firearm? Yes. Part B: Did the police do a questionable thing by letting him go and not arresting or charging him? That's up for debate. Based on what we've seen I'm thinking no. In both instances Part A is a reflection on the maturity and decision making of Jamo and it both instances Jamo if found lacking. This doesn't make him evil/horrible/a puppy kicker... it make him immature. In both instances Part B does not reflect on Jamo what so ever.

Thanks for this T&P. So, it's entirely reasonable and legal for the cops to perceive the situation and conclude: Guns are properly registered, one of two had a valid CPL, Occupants where completely cooperating, no other odd action appears to be going on... yeah, we're not going to cite/arrest the guy here, just let him off with a warning. But here's the $64,000 question: Was this what the police on the scene were going to do or where they evaluating and deciding that they should cite or arrest this guy and it's only that someone higher up stepped in and said: No, let him go. IF that was the situation then I feel like the police may have done some questionable actions there. Edit to add: The above is commentary on the situation and the police and how they handled it. Looking purely at Jamo: This does NOT excuse stupid behavior. Jamo should have known better and should have gone through the proper procedure to get a CPL. This isn't "Jamo is evil and a gang banger and probably was on the way to murder children" or anything like that. But it is saying that this is another instance of Jamo not fully thinking through and not making sure he's correctly adhering to all the rules/laws.

If you could get Smith for a Day 3 pick and Arden Key for a Day 3 pick... I'd say grab them both.

Hey folks, I've started a project and would love to have some input and/or help. Next year marks the 90th anniversary of the greatest sports season in history and I think way too many people don't know about it... even Detroit fans. I'm guessing a few of you are asking: What happened 90 years ago? Well: Tigers win their first World Series Lions win their first NFL Championship Red Wings win their first Stanley Cup Joe Louis is named AP male Athlete of the year after going a perfect 11-0 in the ring. And those are just the BIG stories. Anyway as I mentioned I think this is a largely forgotten story so I'm trying to do a little bit to bring it back into the spot light. I've started making a fandom wiki to collect all the stories and people together in one place. I would certainly appreciate any comments on what you like or what could be done different/better... and I'd also greatly appreciate any help. Currently I only have 21 pages done, and many of those are just hubs listing people. I need to build out many, many more pages particularly synopsis of the people involved. So if you feel like adding anything I'd be very grateful. Here's the link to the DETROIT city of CHAMPions wikipEDIA... or the DETROIT CHAMPEDIA: https://detroitcityofchampions.fandom.com/wiki/Detroit:_City_of_Champions_Wiki

It's like on Hell's Kitchen (one my wife's favorite shows) where the challenges seem to some how, some way ALWAYS come down to the last two contestants from the red team and the blue team.

I think it's also worth noting that the indiscretions here may all be minor things depending on the full facts, which we'll likely never know. Gambling: I think we all agree it's a stupid rule. That doesn't absolve him, but it does explain that with the complications and nuances Jamo may not have known the rule he was breaking or knew the rule but thought he was following it. PES: IF he had a legit prescription, then it's a matter of not reporting it to the NFL. Not a good thing, but far less of a bad thing than taking PES to try to cheat. Gun: This isn't a case of Jamo flashing the gun around or threatening people with it. It's a case of (allegedly) having it for his own protection and he just hadn't gotten all the permits to carry it the way he was. But even in these "best case" scenarios there's a lack of understanding on Jamo's part: He doesn't understand the gambling rules fully or he doesn't understand he'll get caught if he breaks them. He doesn't understand the reporting rules for drugs or he doesn't understand he'll get caught if he breaks them. He doesn't understand you need a CPL to carry the gun like that or he doesn't understand he'll get caught if he breaks the law.

It's a maturity issue, at least in my professional opinion... and you can trust me... I'm an IT guy who reads news stories and random internet posts by strangers. 🙂 Seriously though, it just feels like the kid needs to grow up. Yesterday I was going to make some comment about him Jamo possibly being Titus Young 2.0... but that felt completely wrong so I never made the comment. Young was messed up in the head and it made him do a lot of weird stuff both on the field and off. Jamo just seems to be doing just we likely all might have done in our late teens if we had stupid amounts of money. You act before you think things all the way through. It seems like a good idea at the time so you do it and then later look back and go: "Oh... yeah, um... that was probably stupid." Just for most of us we didn't have enough money to make supremely stupid and we weren't big enough celebrities that it was reported about in the news. Now most of us have matured enough that we actually check the how deep the water is before we jump in. For Jamo he's got everything working against him: He's a little late in the maturity development... he's got the stupid amounts of money... and he is a big enough celebrity that it's being reported. The things that makes him supremely different than Young are these: First, he seems to supremely love the game. He really looks like he's having fun out there and wants to be successful. Second, he seems to be a team player who is willing to do the non-limelight things to help the team win.

IF there was someone higher up who called off the arrest/investigation/whatever, that isn't on Jamo. Obviously we don't know all the details here but if Jamo and his brother where speeding, got pulled over, and then the cops started going further in... you could blame that part of Jamo or his brother. But calling off the proceedings... that's on someone higher up. And if one of the officers loses a job because of it, that's on the higher up. Obviously this assumes that this is what happened... that the onsite cops were going to arrest but got called off my higher ups. Blaming Jamo would be like saying it's I'm responsible for a death because I didn't signal that I was going to turn left so the guy going 75 down a side street while drunk didn't know I was turning left until too late and swerved around me, lost control of his car and crashed it and died. I may be responsible the incident starting... but if the other guy wasn't drunk or going WAY too fast it would have been a minor fender bender, not a death.