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Don't forget Mosely. Very easy to forget him given that he's played what... one snap for us??

This is what happens when the team you root for is actually a decent team with a decent coaching staff and a decent front office. Gotta find other things to complain about.

Any they very well might be waiting for that. But there's plenty of situations where the NFL has acted BEFORE the court case ended. Cam Sutton, for example. And there's no question Rice was involved... he's admitted to be involved. I supposed I don't know if he's admitted to leaving the scene without checking on the other cars, but he as admitted to being involved.

First of all, you know I agree with you that Rice's conduct was horrible and I do think the NFL should be doing something. That said, somewhat in the NFL's defense, the rules that Gordon and Jamo broke were specific NFL rules. "Don't do X or you'll get punishment Y." They may be stupid rules, but they are NFL rules and they are clearly defined. In Rice's case it's much more subjective as @MichiganCardinal said. It's much more of: Don't do "something" that makes the NFL look bad or we'll have to do "something" about it... maybe.

Here's a nice write up if anyone is not familiar with what Rice "allegedly" did. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2024/09/05/rashee-rice-kansas-city-chiefs/75072625007/ There two possibilities here why Rice hasn't been punished by the NFL yet: 1. Because all the injuries were classified as 'minor' the NFL isn't considering it a big deal. 2. Because it was a "stupid thing done by a young kid" (which I think is accurate) the NFL isn't concerned that this is a habitual thing or that Rice will endanger others, so they're content to let the whole thing play out in legally first, and then assign punishment after. That said really the biggest factor here is this is a pretty "low profile" thing in terms of public awareness. I think many people just view it as and dumb thing to do, but it's not like he INTENTED to hurt someone... he didn't start fight or hit a woman. He just was driving too fast and got into an accident. No big deal. Like Tater, I did disagree and I think it is a big deal and most of my "outrage" is because of this: Fortunately everyone who was hurt only had minor injuries, but Rice and the others didn't know this. They ran without checking if someone was in serious bad shape. They didn't know if someone was bleeding out. They didn't know if call for help might make the difference between a severe injury that someone could recover from or a permanent injury or death.

Stafford's getting a lot of grey in his beard.

Been a GREAT Sunday for Detroit sports!

GOFF!!!!!

Meh... facts are meaningless... we know it's really Johnson's fault.

Shame on Ben Johnson for telling McBride to hit branch like that.

Branch looks blacked out. McBride could have been flagged on that. Branch was already head down and McBride dropped his helmet into Branch's.

Branch is out. Egads!

I don't think I would have minded if they went for 4th down there honestly.

That was a bad spot on 3rd down. Not a good play on 4th, but shouldn't have been necessary.

Scrambling scares me. The DL seems to be getting more pressure, but many they left Mayfield scramble so much last week.

Game 153 is now done. After a three game win streak the Sox dropped the next two. Currently the Sox are 36 and 117. The 2003 Tigers, at game 153, were at 38-115. Game 153 for them was the 7th game of a 10-game losing streak that had most of us convinced they would break the modern "most games lost" record of 120 games. The next three games, all losses, would all but seal the Tigers fate. They stood at 38-118 with 6 games to go. No one really figured they had a chance to go 5-1 and just miss 120 games. Right now the Sox have 9 games left and need to win 6 of them to avoid breaking the record: Next 3 against the Padres Then 3 against the Angels Finished up with 3 against the Tigers. I honestly hope they win at least three of those six against before the Tigers. I would love to be the team that gives them loss number 121.

John Johnson totally sounds like someone had to make up a name on the spot and wasn't creative at all.

Well, the article says that Belicheck credited Patricia for "helping to build the Lions’ offensive line." If I'm bored sometime maybe I'll actually listen to the podcast, but unlikely. Anyway, the Lions offensive line: Decker: Drafted by Quinn in '16. At best Patricia can claim to having coached him for 2.5 years. (18, 19, part of 20) Glasgow: Drafted by Quinn in '16. Patricia allowed him to walk away after coaching him for two years. Ragnow: Drafted by Quinn in '18. At best Patricia can claim to having coached him for 2.5 years. (18, 19, part of 20) Zeitler: Obviously no Patricia connection here, but let's sub in Jackson from last year: Jackson: Drafted by Quinn in '20. At best Patricia can claim to having coached him for half a season. Sewell: Obviously no Patricia connection here. OL Coach: Hank Fraley - join the Lions as an assistant OL coach in 18, promoted to head OL coach in '20. So if we look at the 2023 Lions OL: Patricia, who was supposed to be a defensive guru, can claim to be the head coach for four of those guys. Two of them for 2.5 season, one he left walk away and didn't try to resign, and the four he was head coach of for .5 seasons. He was also the head coach when our current OL coach was hired. To me that's a pretty massive stretch to say that Patricia helped build the OL. I don't recall ever hearing even something remotely like Patricia being directly involved in coaching, assisting, mentoring the OL at all. In fact much of the OL probably underperformed when he was HC. And the super duper dumb thing here is that if Belicheck names a different underling of his, it actually makes sense! If He's said: Quinn was involved in helping build the OL... he'd have been right! Quinn was the one who drafted 4 of the '23 OL.

Yeah, this has all the potential to be a "decade of despair" sort of thing. Whiffing on a high 1st round pick can really hurt your team for a while. But whiffing on a high 1st round pick that you paid heavy future assets to acquire can REALLY damage your production for a long time. At least they should have a high pick for the 2025 draft.

The good news for them is that sack numbers, by themselves, aren't really a complete picture of a player. The bad news is that when looking at other things (like who else is on the the DL, QB pressures, INTs, FF, FR, etc.) Hutch is just as good or better in those areas too. Obviously still early in all of their careers so to crown one of them as the clear LONG TERM winner is premature, but right now it certainly looks like Hutch is the better player. I don't think this is quite a Mandarich vs. Sanders or Russel vs. Johnson sort of thing, but I'm quite happy right now that the Panthers elected to take Walker.

White Sox are riding a 2 game winning streak which leaps their win total in September to 4. Incidentally 4 wins is also how many the Sox had from the All-Star break thru to the end of August, so they're doing much better in September. As Oblong just said: 6 against the Angels, 3 against the Padres, and 3 against the Tigers to finish up the year. Let's generously estimate and say they win 2 of 3 from the Angels twice, 1 of 3 from the Padres and the Tigers. That's 6 wins. 41 total wins for the season and 121 losses. That would be a new modern MLB record in terms of losses. You'd have to go back to the 1899 Spiders for a worse record.

At least the Bears lost, so we're tied with them and GB. I was really hoping that the Colts would put up a better performance, but it's pretty hard to win when your QB throws up 3 INTs. And Dallas lost big... that's always a nice thing.

Agree with everything you said 100%... but especially wanted to point this out: Remember the last time the Lions started 1-1? That season turned out pretty okay.

I'm watching this on delay so I'm behind but have to say this while it's fresh in my mind: Goff, I sincerely apologize for ever doubting your deep ball.

I suspect part of this also might simply be the fact that we're a better, more talented team that we're used to seeing as Lions fans. In the past early draft picks for the Lions = starters their first year because the veterans regularly weren't that great and/or weren't developed/coached well. The new guy was thrust in the position, maybe before he should be been developmentally, because even as a rookie he was better than what we had.