RedRamage

I wonder sometimes if it's that all the armor gives you a feeling of invincibility... that you can just smash through and there's no danger of you getting hurt. If you don't have all that armor on your not going to go in for the same kind of hits. I don't claim to be any sort of expert on this, just an opinion.

I'm with Bombers here. Campbell ain't going anywhere this year. I mean, short of something spectacular like the Lions being reasonably healthy and losing out the rest of the season or Campbell going on some sexist or racist rant there is no way he's getting fired this season. He's built up way too much good will with the fans, he fits the culture of Detroit, the players love him, and he's taking over a complete tear down and rebuild (which provides an built in excuse for losing). Now, if the Lions end up with 5 or fewer wins this season (and again a reasonably healthy team) I think people will start to really question his coaching ability and that next year will be the "put up or shut up" year for him, but I will be more shocked if Campbell get fired this year than I will be if the Lions win the SB this year. (Again... assuming he doesn't do something super stupid to publicly embarrass the team and the Fords.)

Just read the end of the Vikings thread... you'll find them there.

If they don't win this game it will literally be impossible for them to get 15 wins during the regular season.

And see here's where my issue would be... I'd bet $10, win $5 and think: "Man...if I'd have bet $100 I would have won $50!" and so next week I'd be tempted to bet a lot more. Self-control in areas like this are NOT my forte, so I do my best to not get started.

For what's it's worth I think a lot of calls in the game, and especially passing related, are judgement calls. I suspect that some crews are much more nitpicky than others are and we ran into a nitpick crew. Now, that doesn't excuse Amani, but it could very well be that 9 crews out of 10 don't call those penalties or don't call as many of them penalties. It also could be that once it was called once the refs were specifically looking for it in the future. It seemed to me that there were other instances where there was just as much contact not involving Amani that weren't called. Additionally look at the last play where there was significant contact and not call was made. To me it look like the receiver turned into Amani and that it could almost have been called offensive PI because Amani was breaking for the ball and the receiver wasn't even looking for the ball when contact was made... but you saw how vehemently he campaigned for a PI by Amani. Makes you wonder if the Vikings were pressuring the refs. Again, all this doesn't excuse Amani. A good pitcher will pitch to the strike zone being called by the ump. A good CB needs to play to the level that the refs allow and back off when he's being flagged.

A thought I just had... was this a case of a team being too tight? Did they go into Minny with the idea that a win here would "prove" that they were for real? Did they go in hoping to cast out the "no road wins" tag and so from the coaching staff on down to the bottom go in here with a serious case of the nerves? I really felt like everything in the 4th quarter was all about: Don't lose! Don't lose! Don't lose! And when you play that like it's almost inevitable that you're gonna lose.

I didn't feel like there were serious coaching issues in the first two games. I did feel like there were some issues in this game so I'm not trying to excuse the coaching staff... just don't see it as a pattern yet. (This is certainly not to say that there weren't coaching mistakes in the first two games, just that they weren't serious issues/mistakes.)

For those of us who are gambling idiots, can you explain how a parlay works and what the advantages are vs. just "normal" bets? I have no intention of getting into gambling because I know that I'm a very weak willing soul with things like this and I would get addicted in no time at all. But I hear about parleys all the time and I'm just curious how it works.

I remember that Crowell play. Just one more great Lions memory. 😢

I think this is a very valid comment and it the appropriate rebuttal to my "sour grapes" attitude of "Well, we expected them to lose anyways, so..." I think we've all been trained to view the team as a bad team for a long, long, long time and so "well... we expected them to lose anyways, so..." But we shouldn't just expect that nor really accept that as fans. This one hurts a bit because it was clearly winnable and they found a way to lose. It would have been a nice statement game. Looking back 3/4 of a day later and I was probably just trying to psych myself out of feeling upset.

This. Before the season most of people put the Lions at 6-8 wins... not quite good enough to be average. The Vikings are an above average team so you'd expect them to lose. That's not to say I'm happy about it... I think they could have won if they'd just played a little bit better. But I guess I didn't expect them to win.

I think it was the wrong call to go for the FG for two reasons: It's unlikely he makes it, giving the Vikings short field position. But even if he does make it that doesn't stop the Vikings from winning on a TD. I think the choice there should be been between a punt and going for it on 4th down.

I think this was a complete team loss. I think you can point to problems everywhere. Goff wasn't perfect (though not bad either), choose to not run more seems puzzling to me. Receivers weren't getting open regularly. Injuries were piling up. The DL got very little pressure. #24 was sucking it up big time and the secondary in general wasn't great. ST made a number of mistakes (missed FG, less than great punts, take the ball out of the end zone and getting tackled before the 25-yardline too often). I honestly don't know that there was any one area that played really, really well... maybe the OL I guess??

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/comments/xk2cqi/this_is_the_lions_division_and_were_all_just/

Any references to knee caps?

Yeah it was 100% a joke at TripleSe7en's expense.

https://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/ Now, it's a fan vote and there's no limit to the number of times someone can vote so it's pretty meaningless, but I suppose it's cool that he made the list at all.

Did he use to stare at you when you sat in the stands... signaling that he approved of your posts online?

Well, I'm a believer. Against the Lions: Passing: 18/32, 56.2% for 243 yards, no TDs, no INTs, QBR of 80.6. Running: 90 yards on 17 att (5.3 avg) and a TD Against the Vikings: Passing: 26/31, 83.9% for 333 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, QBR 108.7 Running: 57 yards on 11 att (5.2 avg) and 2 TDs Hurts ran on the Lions a lot more. I didn't watch the game with the Vikings so I don't know if they were keying on stopping him from running more or if this was just a case that they didn't need to because Hurts had no problem passing.

Detroit vs. Everyone* *Including the Lord Almighty

Geez man... is there any QB you will NOT compare Goff too favorably?

I don't want to get too ahead of ourselves... it was a solid win, but: 1. There were still times when the offense and defense looks bad. 2. The Commanders aren't a great team. So I think it's early to starting printing the playoff tickets. Vikings will be a big test. if we win there next week... I might say we need to fire up the printer.

We should see if the Rams want to trade QBs and if they'll throw in some first rounds picks with their QB seeing as how ours is better.

Feels like you're saying that Goff is better than Jackson. 🤮 I don't understand how you could think that.