RedRamage

Hmm.... that seems like they are overloading a bit on that position.

uh oh...

Figure Ravens will take one of 'em?

If Dean is not there... what about Obajo?

Dean or Willis at this point?? Which would you prefer?

Have decided yet if I like these or not. It's an interesting take and I like the effort. Makes me wonder what they'll do when the draft is in Detroit.

1. No because I'm not convinced that Willis is really much better than the others. He certainly has some nice abilities, but I don't know that it will translate any better than the other options. 2. It depends on what they give up. Again, I'm not convinced he's a sure thing, but I guess if the Lions are, then do it. Heck, if they're really convinced that Willis is the guy trade the Rams pick next year for someone's second round this year.

I think that's a valid concern. Obviously it's hard to know for sure how things would have shaken up had the Lions not traded up, but it's certainly possible the Lions could have gotten Cine and Dean... that's potentially two starters on defense on day one vs. Williams, who probably won't be starting until Octoberish... What we end up getting tonight will have a major effect on how I end up grading this I guess.

Here's what PFF just did:

So here's the next 14 picks and the next 28 ranked players according to ESPN. Who want to do a 14 pick mock draft?

Yeah, it's not Williams or Cine and Dean... it's Williams and #46 or Cine and Dean... We'll, technically it's or Cine, Dean, and #66.

Logically, emotionlessly, it makes sense to trade with anyone if you think it's the right trade. But fans are rarely logical, rational thinkers (expect us of course). If you trade with a division rival the player the rival gets with the trade ends up having success you have to see that player twice a year. Look, Lions fans still complain about passing on Aaron Donald and he's not even in the our Division.

Lions trade up to #3 and take Thibs.

Pick is in...

The pick is in... announce it... that's what we're watching for, not all these idiots to talk about crap.

Pickett is from Loch Arbour, New Jersey. Is it possible for a city name to sound less like it should be in New Jersey than that name?

Weird that it's taking so long... Jags trying for a last minute trade?

What the hell is this Chris Angel crap??

So spontaneous that Ice Cube was there!

I'm going to go with Hutch or Walker, who ever is available. If Jags take an OL I'll go with Hutch.

And that's probably by biggest worry. Not so much that he wouldn't put his all into the game while he played but more that as soon as he gets the cash he thinks he needs he'd leave. The player that jumps to mind is Robert Smith from the Vikings who retired after 8 seasons to pursue a career in medicine. He was at the top of his game and then just left. This is not to knock Smith (or potentially Thibs) as a person, but as a fan (and I suspect the front office would feel the same) I want players who view the game as the goal, not a means to the goal.

Now me playing the armchair GM would see this as a potential Red Flag that I'd like to ask a lot of follow up questions on. To me the potential issue here is this: "If Football is your platform to reach the next level, how invested are you going to be in football? How much do you need from football before you're going to move on to your real passion project?" Compare this with Hutch who seems to view football as his passion project. Football isn't his platform to reach new things, football is the thing he wants to reach. Again: Heavy disclaimer here... this is just me being armchair GM with no inside information. As I said this is a potential Red Flag. I trust Holmes (at least so far) and I assume he's done those follow up questions. If he and Campbell are on board with Thibs, I'm going to trust that they did the research they felt was needed.

Well, not Georgia, but...

How about this draft?