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My AAT: Jackson Jobe (haha! After I bashed Avila for picking him instead of Mayer...!) But he's starting to perk up the numbers now...

He prefers France to America anyways... let him leave. (One problem with France is that we have an extradition treaty with France): https://www.yahoo.com/news/hates-america-trump-slammed-admitting-071531117.html

BAN TRUMP!!! Movements to bar Trump from ever running for political office in the U.S. again, specifically President: https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-ban-trump-other-maga-093002838.html

Movements to bar Trump from ever running for political office in the U.S. again, specifically President: https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-ban-trump-other-maga-093002838.html

But I'm making a different point. Because I agree with you that they've "anointed" him as their "Jesus". But that doesn't make him "Jesus". Anointing Jim Jones as anyone's savior doesn't make him Jesus. Hitler taking power and turning into the "savior" of Germany (99% of the population (just a WAG) believed he had "saved" Germany, before he nose-dived, for specific reasons) still doesn't make him the "Jesus" of Germany. Putin is not the Jesus of Russia. Trumpism is not Christianity. I am not arguing with you that MAGA has "anointed" him, they have. I am arguing that just because someone is "anointed" in a cult, in any cult, does not "make" them Jesus. It's an inappropriate comparable based not on his anointment, but on the differences between the Cult of Trumpism, versus Christianity. They are not equal and therefore he can NOT be Jesus. Jonesism, Putinism, Hitlerism... none of these guys are modern day Jesus's... Although they certainly played to popular sentiment searching for a "savior". But, not the same thing. That's why I say when Trump dies, Trumpism will wither. It's a Cult of his personality, like Jones/ Putin/ Stalin/ Mussolini, etc... When the Cult Leader of a violent movement dies, the movement dies, even if it's not entirely 100%. It's not attractive to normal people. How can it grow? Christianity grew... because of its message, not its original leader. Therein lies the difference that I am trying to point out. Trump cannot be "Jesus"... even if he has been "anointed" by his sycophantic cult adulationists, because Trumpism is not a religious message, but, rather, a fascist message of violence and hatred. Like Mussolini (not Jesus), like Hitler (not Jesus), like Stalin (not Jesus), like Putin (not Jesus), etc.

DO IT!!!

Still doesn't make him Jesus. Not even Orange Jesus as that's just a (you know this already) derogatory moniker. It makes him much closer to... ummm.... What's his name? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Correctamundo.

100% correct. And they (and we all) know it.

Expected. And I love it.

No, I took it exactly as metaphor. But I still take difference with using Jesus as metaphor for Trump. And yes... I DO understand that the red hats look at Trump as some kind of savior. But no different than using Gandhi as metaphor... using either Jesus or Gandhi as metaphor doesn't work... They spread messages of living with other people who are different. Not using violence to protest injustice. Etc. etc. Trump is using Mussolini as his guideline: Violence is acceptable to install a fascist dictatorship. That benefits SOLELY himself. The exact OPPOSITE of Jesus in fact. And I do NOT agree that Trumpism will continue without Orange Jesus. It will die, however slowly that death will be. When Hitler died, did Nazism continue? (Or more appropriately, did Nazism continue at the level of German Nazism? Because yes... I do understand neo-Nazism is still alive and well... followed only by a few grotesque adherents...). Did the death camps continue? Your likening of Trumpism to Christianity is grotesque. And I'm not a Christian. Trumpism is not a religion. It is not enlightening. It is disgusting and hateful. Grotesque. Indigestible. And you propose that it will sustain, in the US? Or grow worldwide, is that what you are proposing? No. I don't believe so. I'm not saying it will die out to zero... Bigotry never dies. But it will diminish. And demographics are already swamping out the white trash bigots in this country, which is why they are lashing out in one last gasp by turning to Trump's fascism. But it is... a weak and abhorrent and Neanderthal gasp that chases people away; it does NOT attract more people to its cause. But LESS. You are wrong.

Demographics will out. Eventually.

This is what I was trying to say. However.. he ain't Jesus. He's closer to Ben's depiction of him as the Fuhrer; however I wouldn't go that far either. I would say the closest description would be Mussolini. Someone eminently stupid. Full of so much hot air he could fly to China if he were a balloon. And when he got beaten to death... even if Italian fascism didn't die off completely afterwards... without the head of the snake it evaporated into inconsequential. I think it will take longer for American Fascists to follow that path into nothingness... But once the head of the snake is chopped off... it will follow exactly the path of inconsequential into nothingness. I firmly believe that.

I don't want to live there. I wasn't clear with my "retiring there" comment... But what I actually want to do is snowbird there Feb-March... maybe a another month here and there... But yeah... I hate Florida in general so I don't want a permanent domicile (hmmm... maybe for tax purposes...) in Lakeland Florida.

The problem with that is that I want to retire to Lakeland, Florida... How about shipping all of them to Alaska? And they can take DeSantis with them. Trump can build a new Mar-a-Lago in YORK, Alaska... right across from Russia so he and Palin and all the other Putin-Fascist-Loving sycophants of his can "keep an eye" on Russia. Or take a quick boat ride over there so they can experience Putinistic Fascism first-hand since they are so in love with it... Master builder that he is...

No. If Trump went into exile, either forcefully or voluntarily... The cult would die. Not Trumpism, or the White Trash Bigots that form that core of support... But without their leader... the cult part of it withers and dies. IMO.

Can we just use an abandoned mine shaft? No money involved... Just toss him down the shaft... And the only thing Secret Service would need to worry about is stopping me from going to the edge of that mine shaft and peeing over the edge...

I better not speak to what I really want to see... Although I will say it rhymes with "eclectic hair".

Actually... Ukraine could be doing the world a favor by blowing up the Kremlin. Can we give them a missile for that please?

Now we need Georgia to PILE ON... 😁 😂

I'll say this again... I would be VERY OK with buying out his option. What's he have left? 3 years? So $30 mill gives him a $10 mill/ year bump as it seems he is VERY underpaid at the level his current contract runs given the level of excellence he is currently pitching at... But I am really NOT as enthused for an extension. In fact, very much against that...

But also... How serious are the Tigers about extending/ buying out his option? They were pretty motivated to trade him this deadline so... Still... A huge grain of salt here... IMO.

I can live with this possibility however... That Harris stuck to his guns and wouldn't accept an unacceptable trade. And maybe they are more serious about holding onto Eduardo (and he has mutual feelings) than what I have in my head... We'll see. But... still... The White Sox, Mets, and Cardinals traded two Starting pitchers each, along with relievers and sundry other players... Harris couldn't squeeze out any acceptable offer from any other team aside from the Dodgers? That is disappointing.

I do NOT want to see an Eduardo extension. A buyout of his option, YES. An extension, NO. But, also... I'm going to take this with a huge grain of salt... until I see otherwise. It seems like window-dressing after the fact (of the miss at the deadline...). But we'll see...

I don't believe he'll be open to discussing an extension... just guessing... but also, I don't think the Tigers are interested in "extension" talks either... IMO. Maybe they would be open to buying out his option if that's a possibility... But I don't think so. And I don't believe he'd be open to that either. IMO. They just tried to trade him to LA where he DEFINITELY did not want to play. He's opting out at the end of this season. We get nothing. Except the beauty of his remaining starts for 2023... IMO.