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2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
1984Echoes replied to LongLiveMaroth's topic in Detroit Tigers
PS: One more thing: I think I constructed the Dodgers trade very similarly to the Orioles trade I proposed. Rushing = Mayo. I think each have some position risk, Rushing is a big LH'ed bat in the minors, career minors .917 OPS with good power and excellent OBP history... But I don't know if he's an automatic starter in MLB (based on some defensive weaknesses) so; part-time at Catcher (might be a great 2nd catcher matchup with Righty Dingler), part-time Lefty 1B'man, and part-time Lefty DH and/or PH'er. Mayo is not much different as I don't believe the Orioles think he's defensively good enough to be a lock 3rd baseman and may be more of a 1B'man in MLB. He's RH'ed though... so we do need that more than Lefty Rushing... Vargas = Basallo. These are the key guys. These are their best (willing-to-trade) prospects for each Org (unless you can convince the Orioles to part with Holliday... but I just don't think that's a possibility.) Basallo would be an awesome get. A good match for Dingler. But Vargas? I think he's going to be a monster. Mayo may be > Rushing... But I think Vargas is a HUGE GET and a much better get than Basallo... IMO. But Basallo is 19 and in AA with a .787 OPS, whilst Vargas is 18 and not yet in A-ball. That led me to adding two Dodger pitching prospects versus the Orioles 3. But I can even that out: Add Peter Heubeck as another Dodger pitching prospect. As for the packages: I like both Rushing and Mayo but Mayo a little more. I like both Basallo and Vargas; I like Basallo more for "almost ready" but I like Vargas WAY more for a much higher LT upside. The Orioles pitching prospects are similar to the Dodgers ones except they all have better control.. that seems to be a Dodgers weakness. But I think the packages are similar enough... and I love Vargas overwhelmingly as the "best prospect" that I go with the Dodgers package, IMO. As I've laid it out. Now... If the Orioles were to swap out Mayo for Holliday... NOW we have a serious discussion!!! -
2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
1984Echoes replied to LongLiveMaroth's topic in Detroit Tigers
Yeah... This is why I felt I was "in the ballpark"; moreso than anything else they could add into the package. As for Vargas AND Rainer... Both of those guys look like they could fit at EITHER SS or 3B... So I wouldn't worry about having two high-level SS prospects as much as "Hmmm... Who plays 3rd and who plays SS...? Hmmm..." Bottom line being I think we would be pleased with the left side of our IF for years and years to come... -
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The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Plus, several of those SS prospects have strong enough arms that if they moved to a different position, they could easily move to 3B and be plus defenders there. I would love to have a capable left-side of the IF, and IMO, drafting a plethora of SS's is in that/ the right direction... -
2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
1984Echoes replied to LongLiveMaroth's topic in Detroit Tigers
So the quick question is: If you were structuring a "Want List" of Dodgers prospects to receive in a trade for Skubal: What would that realistically be (meaning, the Dodgers might agree to that package... such as: if you "want" their Top 7 prospects in that trade and list them as your "reasonable" or "likely" return... they most likely would not agree with you so... no trade)? I think I structured my trade proposal correctly, and found the guys I wanted... and the flexibility from my angle would be to add maybe another prospect that fills out the package. IE: "Adding one other guy" I think is in the ballpark. Asking for their top 7 (obviously I'm just making that up...) is not, IMO. -
2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
1984Echoes replied to LongLiveMaroth's topic in Detroit Tigers
PS: I think the Dodgers have enough high-end prospects to complete a satisfactory package for Skubal. Without getting into any shenanigans. I would ask for Dalton Rushing, Jackson Ferris, Joendry Vargas and of course Maddux Bruns (power-armed lefty with almost no control...). Gotta have a "DD" prospect to clinch it. That's Bruns... -
2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
1984Echoes replied to LongLiveMaroth's topic in Detroit Tigers
If one of the two "high-end" prospects is Joendry Vargas I say "DO IT!!!" Dodgers say no, however... -
Disgusting thing. Ever.
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The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
They're going HS upside again, at the end... but how many of these will be signable...? -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Last 5 (Dawson Price looks like a 2-way player...): 476 16 Anson Seibert RHP Blue Valley Southwest (KS) 18 6' 8" / 235 lbs L R 506 17 Gabriel Rosado C Beltran BB Academy (PR) 18 6' 1" / 180 lbs L R 536 18 Bryce Alewine RHP Southern Union JC (AL) 19 6' 4" / 215 lbs R R 566 19 Chase Davis LHP Leon HS (FL) 17 6' 2" / 210 lbs L L 596 20 Dawson Price OF/3B/RHP Eastern Oklahoma JC 19 6' 5" / 215 lbs R R -
2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion
1984Echoes replied to LongLiveMaroth's topic in Detroit Tigers
TOP FOUR...? No, there's no team that would ever do that. Unless their top 4 wasn't that good. To get Miggy, we traded our top 2 (at the time, Andrew Miller and Cam Maybin) plus other pieces. And that's what we're asking (as a ridiculous huge ask but we won't settle for anything less...) of the Orioles with TWO of their top 6-ish I think. And plus some lesser pieces. So if WE were in that spot... I'd probably call Clark & Jobe untouchable (as the Orioles are probably doing with Holliday and probably Basallo) but everyone else available. So that would mean starting with Jung & McGonigle and adding as few more, lower, pieces. If we had the Orioles team and could add a Skubal today, right now (2 1/2 years under control)... ? I'd say yes to a Jung + McGonigle + other pieces package. -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Struggles with secondary pitches, and stamina in-game (loses velocity throughout...). If they were going to try and pop a difficult sign... I would've preferred Dax Whitney. Much better stuff, repeatability and projectability. But probably interested only in college at this point and not enough bonus available to change his mind... Just talking out loud... -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Here's for hoping Zach MacDonald turns into a RH'ed Kerry Carpenter... ... ... 😉 -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Recent Tigers Picks: 326 11 Micah Ashman LHP Univ of Utah 21 6' 7" / 195 lbs L L 356 12 Jude Warwick SS Downers Grove HS (IL) 18 6' 1" / 170 lbs L R 386 13 Lucas Elissalt RHP Chipola College 20 6' 4" / 190 lbs R R 416 14 Preston Howey RHP St. Mary's College 22 5' 10" / 175 lbs R R 446 15 Zach MacDonald OF Miami University (OH) 20 6' 1" / 195 lbs R R -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
I should write a guidebook. -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
If you don't like following minor leaguers then quit ****ting all over those of us who do. PS: I find your behavior to be beyond rude. It's insulting. -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Luke Gold and Roberto Campos need to figure out how to hit a baseball more consistently... -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
10th Round = R.J. Sales, RHP out of UNC-Wilmington. -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
9th Round = Zach Swanson, HS RHP. Ranked by MLB at 178. Scouting report mostly says a projectable 6'3" 18 yo kid... -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
8th = College LH'ed pitcher Ethan Sloan, Regis University (CO). -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Plus most college guys hit by Year 3 (74%), tapering off quickly after that. Whilst HS guys build up to Year 5 (mostly 3-4-5: but 81% by yr 5), then taper off. -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
7th = Jackson Strong (good baseball name), LH'ed OF'er out of Canisius College (4th year, NY college). -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
Add another SS: 6th round = Woody Hadeen, switch-hitter from UC-Irvine. -
The: "Can we not do this anymore?" 2024 MLB Draft
1984Echoes replied to 1984Echoes's topic in Detroit Tigers
There is however... Still a couple prep pitchers I wish they'd chase. But... I'm assuming the bonus demands put them out of play...