1984Echoes

I liked Buehler at $21M better than Cobb at $15M. But he didn't love us back... Can we get Flaherty back for a couple more years?

Because he can't get his $200 mill contract. His value is down after 2024. But get his OBP way back up... while making $30 mill per year until he gets back to pre-level 2024, with an opt out each year... allows him to... Opt out? And take another shot at the $200 mill? And if he never gets back to what he was... he doesn't opt out and still makes $30 mill per year for the next 3 years. It makes perfect sense. Especially if you're an accountant. Which I am (CPA). He can't get his Big Boras contract so Boras is advising him to go short term at high AAV with opts. It's perfect logic.

I wouldn't use this as any kind of source or "prediction". It's simply fun to talk about... That's all. Oh... and I would definitely go for $30 mill per year to Bregman for 3 with opt outs. Get 'er done Harris! Just my 2 cents...

I would do this: Bregman 3 years $90 mill with opt outs after each year... Tigers predicted to land two-time All-Star on three-year, $90 million deal

I'm not down on Lee so much as I think he won't be able to wrest 2B away from Torres... Or Jung. I think Jung will end up at 2B. I believe Lee is not the most athletic guy either. So it's not like he has a fielding advantage there over anyone else. But I DO believe he has a legit bat... That means finding ways to get him into the lineup... Which means... I think they give him some time at other positions as a way to get him into the lineup more. He's played 3B some. And some OF previously. But with so many LH'ers on the team... it'll be on the short side of any platoons...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Pessimistic...

If they have Lee playing all sorts of positions in Toledo this year, then... He's not that guy. He'll be a McKinstry/ Ibanez replacement.

The flip side is that the Tigers could QO him. That was what I meant when I earlier said "unless". What if he does so well with Detroit, and the brass fall so much in love with him that they offer him a contract? I don't think they will. And all he has to do is turn down the QO, sign with another team, which would garner us a draft pick, so, in your scenario... any return on a trade would have to exceed the "perceived" value of that draft pick. And all he has to do is perform, and then turn down that QO... Unless...

I don't see Lee as a starter. I see him as Ibanez 2.0 Jung is a better option as a starter at 2B. Which makes Baty perfect. He's the LH'ed starting 3B, Vierling/ Lee the RH backup options. Jung is the LH'ed starting 2B, Lee/Baez (if he's still here in 2026) the RH backup options. Watch them play Lee all over the field this year, including some corner OF and SS & 3B (he's played both in the minors previously). But I'm just guessing...

Wouldn't he be a perfect fit if we have Vierling? And Jung could take over 2B in 2026... I consider Torres to be a one-off just for 2025... unless he...

Go get him Harris!!!

I don't think it will happen right away... maybe trade deadline if he isn't doing much and Harris and Hinch don't believe in him... He still is the RH'd power guy that they need. But he has to show it, not dog it. I don't see what's wrong with making a Tork for Brett Baty - Nolan McLean package... if Tork flops here.

Baez has played: 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, LF, RF in MLB... Not limited. It's Ibanez that is most superfluous and he doesn't have money invested in him as does Baez. Bench is Dingler, Baez, McKinstry, and one of Perez, Malloy, or Tork... depending on ST... IMHO.

This is a reclamation project trade so I don't key on the lefty-righty situation as much... That being said... If the trade were to go down... then: 2025 Lefty-Righty Catcher: Rogers (R) - Dingler (R) 1B - Keith (L) - Malloy (R) - Ibanez (R) 2B - Jung (L) - not out of ST, but by June-ish? - Torres (R) SS - Sweeney (L) - Baez (R) 3B - Baty (L) - Vierling (R) LF - Perez (S) - Carpenter (L) - Malloy (R) CF - Meadows (L) - Perez (S) RF - Greene (L) - Vierling (R) DH - Carpenter (L) - Malloy (R) Two things: I think the Tigers and Hinch can figure out any lefty-righty switches they need in 2025. And also, there will be additional kids in AAA and in AA (Rainer-McGonigle) that will be ready and waiting to break into MLB... even if starting as a bench player, in 2025 and 2026 (IMO): 2026 Lefty-Righty Catcher: Liranzo (S) - Dingler (R) 1B - Keith (L) - Liranzo (S) - Malloy (R) 2B - Jung (L) - Hao-Yu-Lee (R) SS - Sweeney (L) - Baez (R) 3B - Baty (L) - Vierling (R) LF - Clark (L) - Perez (S) CF - Meadows (L) - Campos (R) RF - Greene (L) - Vierling (R) DH - Carpenter (L) - Malloy (R) McGonigle & Rainer will be at AAA unless...

Mets rumors are floating 3B Brett Baty for Torkelson trade... they can move some guys around and cover 3B they think better than Baty... Baty's also a former 1st rounder with good power, decent defense but low BA... showed better numbers in AAA (both power and BA) but hasn't "found it" yet in MLB... Tork for Baty? Yes? No?

Would anyone trade a Tork+ package for Bo Bichette? (Plus being I'm not certain what else it would take) OR: Alternatively... if anyone has an interest in Bo Bichette... what would you trade to land him...?

It's getting REALLY close...

Maybe Torres in 2025 turns into Jung & Hao-Yu Lee in 2026...?

Especially for what he is asking for. I approve Torres at 1/$15MM over Bregman at his current ask. I also think the Org internally knows how Keith's shoulder is doing currently and is comfortable moving him to 3B, with Vierling getting some time there. Lefty-Righty as need. And that moves Jung back to 2B, where he was a better player. So Torres is a stopgap until Jung is ready... and tehy may both be on the team at some point which is, again... Righty-Lefty, as needed. Still need some longer-term balance on the Right side. Which brings us to... Tork will have to prove he can be better than he's shown. At the plate and in the field. Or he will be broomed out... I would say he needs to prove to the team he has some staying power in Detroit by the trade deadline. Or else...

Reliever who K's guys (instead of what we've got): Jace Jung and Max Anderson (and maybe another lower prospect) for: Mariners - Andres Munoz OR A's - Mason Miller Is there a "yes" in there somewhere...?

It's Javier Baez until the Org decides to pull that plug... It makes sense to hold onto him in 2025 until Sweeney proves himself over a season and they can figure out what to do with Baez later on... They don't need to, and they won't make that decision, until mid-season at the earliest... IMO.

You guys are going to love me for this... Because I want to go back to the early 80's Tigers again. This is correct. And the reason I have to go back to the early 80's is... Crapload of young kids. Different names... obviously. So who knows what this version will turn into...? But... The focus right now is to help these kids get better and playoff worthy. So Lee is correct: Post-season in mind. Veteran leadership, but get to the Playoffs. And since we weren't a free agent signing team in the early 80's; I am going to look at a couple of trades. Like the December 9th, 1981 trade for Larry Herndon. Young veteran Righty bat, on a lefty heavy team. Bregman could be our Larry Herndon. (Better and a bit older... but same idea). But I think he's even better than that. I think Bregman is our Chet Lemon. Steve Kemp for Chet Lemon on November 17th, 1981. Same idea as Herndon. Veteran, righty, great defense. Even though he was traded for not a FA) and only 27... I think Bregman would be our Chet Lemon. Just my 2 cents...

Danke schoen.

Isn't that 2024 International? After Jan 15th, it's 2025 International so new year, new money can be offered to Sasaki... I think that's correct...?

That was my first thought on signing Cobb: Maeda replacement or Maeda 2.0. But we need better please Harris.