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That sounds about right... Add in Husso as better than who played his ice time last year. If that infringes on some of Ned's games played... then... my statement remains the same.

Keys to the Kingdom.

Holy shit that was fast. I like him. But ~$20 Mill per year at years 34 and 35? I get it that he might be the right veteran to show these kids how to play in the NBA... still...

I think it's called: "Lions Fatigue". I don't know about you... but I'm exhausted with Lions' incessant foibles. I think my patience is gone. I'm not interested in repeating 5 years of Fontes or 5 years of Mornhinweg or 5 years of Quinntricia or anything like that anymore. I'm just exhausted. So I think my patience is gone. Campbell deserves a legitimate shot to show he can lead this team. But based on what I'm seeing, I don't know if that extends beyond this season. I get that the team isn't complete - talent-wise yet. But I'm seeing too many other problems with this team... that are a direct result of "coaching". From Campbell on down. I think any move during the season is idiotic. He should be given this year to make whatever of this team that he can... improvements or otherwise. But in the offseason: an evaluation needs to be made. Is Campbell the right guy? That's it. I don't have any more patience for dragging out years of a losing coach's inability to win games in the NFL.

Unless it's time to just straight up give up on Diallo and give him his release.

Bey belongs on the second unit. He might even dominate there. As Sixth Man.

It's more fun than scoring 37 and be losing 69-37 at the half...

Yeah it looks like Just Say No. They're already doing the same thing with Knox, giving him another shot. And they're not going to let go of McGruder's vet presence. I don't know how bad Primo's "offense" was but... don't see a reason or avenue to add him regardless.

There has to be some secondary issue here... probably off the court... including even refusing to listen to Coach but... Is he worth giving a tryout on our roster? Who's at the bottom of our roster that we'd want to move on from for this kid? Or, is the answer "just say no"?

I was going to say I can't agree with this... I can't get on board. But I do agree with this part... Weaver has to part with Casey and upgrade. Before the 2023-24 season starts. So anytime between now and next offseason. Not a breaking point to me if he doesn't move on from Casey this next year... but I will start questioning him, certainly. We start winning in 2023-24 or Weaver is making the wrong decision if he's retaining Casey still... IMO.

PS: Not interested in diamond earrings?

Too bad you're not in 'Murica where your first $700K could go to gold chains, a pickup truck, a gilded bible collection and an AR-15/ Glock/ body armor/ nuclear fallout shelter/ military weapons collection. So... "deprived" ... north of the border.

That's 6 weeks for the Lions instead of 7, like most everyone else (look at the star next to LV, Hou, and Detroit). That's also about 12 gameday players lost per week for the Lions, so they would have a roughly 81.6 missed player-games if they had 7 games played. Las Vegas and Houston would also move up on the same basis (6 games instead of 7)... Putting the Lions at about 9th on a pro-rata basis. With 81.6 versus the leaders 88.2. Not good.

WTF? Seriously?

I believe Putin is going to use a nuclear weapon, or several, in Ukraine. It has come to that, and he is going to do it. He could care less what anyone thinks about it or how much damage he inflicts in a nuclear attack against Ukraine. He wants to wipe them off the face of the map. And if he can't actually do it, it doesn't matter. He is going to use nuclear weapons against them and inflict as much pain, suffering, nuclear damage and fallout as he can get away with.

I don't think it's an issue of them playing together... I think it's an issue of HOW they are playing together. With Cade as the primary, the offense is slow and Cade is trying to get everyone involved. If Ivey is the primary, he's flashing/ driving/ breaking down the defense. If he has no lane for a shot, or is doubled... he should swing it out... NOW... Cade is receiving the ball with a broken down defense and the ability to use all his skills/ vision/ passing, to get a shot for himself or for someone else. As a secondary, his job is not to get everyone involved, it's to get the basketball into the net. Himself, or someone more open. And again, with a broken-down defense or a moving defense trying to catch up to ball movement after Ivey has drove-and-dished... I think gives Cade a great advantage initiating any offense in that situation. But that's just me.

Which is why I had posted earlier that I want Duren & Livers starting over Stew & Bey. It doesn't matter that Bey might be the better player. Livers does what the team needs of him. Exactly as you posted. Also... I think Livers will be the better 3-point shooter, again, exactly what we need. In college. Right now. And for his career. Better spot-up shooter than Bey. Stew & Bey coming off the bench, I think, would be great BTW...

I think boogie is correct that Bey keeps trying - really hard - to be more than what he is.

He was NOT just slow to get up. He shook his head at least a couple of times. I watched him do it. THAT's why the ref sent him to the sidelines. This is on the Doc's, NOT on the Ref.

Just imagine adding Victor Wembanyama to this team. It pushes Duren to PF, Stew to the bench. Pick your SF from a large cast... Ivey becomes primary ball-handler at PG and Cade secondary at SG. I think this team becomes extremely dangerous at both ends of the court. Stew and pick 3 of 4: Bagley/ Bey/ Livers/ Burks or Bojan or whoever fills out the roster (minus one of those guys starting...); and now the bench has some scoring ability too... Just thinking out loud...

This makes me think that it might be better if Ivey can develop into a primary ball-handler... and make Cade the secondary guy... Speaking only about Cade: it might make him more effective.

Even if there was no critical "pop" or "hit".... He still can't go deep with accuracy, won't go deep often enough, is not pocket-aware, takes unnecessary sacks, throws too many INT's and has too many fumbles. He cracks under pressure. And has no ability to "improvise" or "create something"... He's proven to me, Detroit, and the Lions coaches and FO I believe, what his weaknesses are. He can QB a team. He can "game manage" an offense. But he is Carson Wentz/ Ryan Tannehill/ Andy Dalton... Decent enough guys but not the QB that will just put a team on his back and drive the team to wins... I think his QBR is telling... roughly about 50 for his career. On a par with the 3 guys I mentioned above. These guys can win games.. but the team has to carry them, not the other way around. Stafford has a career QBR of 55-60 (I don't see a career #, that's a WAG...). He carried teams. But didn't have good enough teams around him to get anywhere. He did need some manner of support... Rams proved that out last year. I want to build the absolute best team out there, and put the best QB we can find in the lead... might be hard to do but... IMO we have to find better than Goff... he's proven that to me.

I would NOT rather the Lions draft Will Anderson than CJ Stroud. However... I'm going to guess that we are just not going to be in a position to get Stroud. So... I think by default, we're going to be hoping that Will Anderson or Jalen Carter falls to us for our first pick. The second 1st rounder from the Rams could be open to all sorts of possibilities... athletic sideline-to-sideline LB'er, another CB to pair with Okudah, any QB that might be available here that the team believes can take over as starter... Maybe RB but I'd rather they wait until the 2/3/4th before trying to find some RB depth. I think the other 4 spots rank higher in need: QB, DL, LB, CB.

They might do that at some point. But my guess is the Lions won't do that to start the 2023 season. I would be grateful for a 3rd rounder for Goff, when the time comes... He has two more years? I thought it was only this year and next year... but I guess that's two years, right? If so... then they could easily hold on until the end of the 2023 season, if that's the same as his contract ending...

If it's a deal we can't refuse... sure, don't refuse it. But I think his track record will now limit any offers we may have received for him... down to... fire-sale value. The league now definitely sees what he is/ isn't; and all his warts have been exposed by two different teams that had him set up for some measure of success. So most likely we'll end up holding onto him until the end as a new-QB tutor and then backup. Until his contract ends and he moves on...