1984Echoes

Listen, if you love Russia so much... Why don't you go live in Siberia for the next 6 years and then send us back a report? Could be quite... interesting.

That's right. It costs money, arms, and lives to defend democracy and freedom against tyranny. Which, apparently, you are against.

Fat chance. IMO.

That'll be veeeery interesting if Holmes/ Campbell decide they'll take that chance on Carter. It'll get a major WHOA!!! from me. But Seattle is also considering that as well, from rumors/ opinion aspect at least...

PS: The Islanders pick looks like it has a serious chance of finishing 14-16th... at which we keep it this year. There's your second player buddha! If Stevie Y can find the right two that is... There are a lot of potential power forward/ bigger bodies with talent types around that area: Matthew Wood, Ryan Leonard, Calum Ritchie, Quentin Musty (I'm just rattling off names from scouting reports...). I'll leave it up to SY to select his guy.

I'm not counting pipe dreams.

Probably. And I agree with the superior (college) talent... But I'm bettin' $1,000 (not really.... just theoretically) he is off Holmes draft board and he's off mine too. What a shame.

They need to find a Shanahan or two in the draft. They need scoring and toughness/ grit. Especially... Both.

6' 2" so not huge but good enough for a defenseman...

I want David Reinbacher... RH'ed D. Supposed to be excellent (responsible) defensively and an excellent puck-mover/ passer...

I think Maatta operates better as the 2nd defensive puck-handler (with a Seider, or Hronek, or Chiarot) and not so much as the primary (with Oesterle...). Too much attention on him... just a guess.

-4 each.

OK... 50/50 Maatta & Oesterle sucking it tonight...

And I just watched Simon lay out a hit (on Gudas) near the boards and he (Simon) ended up on his ass...

The whole team needs to add muscle. They've been knocked off the puck almost to a man tonight, have lost almost all corner battles and face-offs (or at least it seems that way...) and it also seems that Florida takes the puck off of Wings players almost at will... They're not a playoff-ready team until the whole team gets stronger/ tougher/ etc...

Just to get checked out 'cause Simon's back on the ice...

Yeah... Oof... -3 I'm blaming it on Oesterle although I wasn't particularly watching him closely... I saw Maatta turn it over at least once...

Their power play however... Looks beyond putrid this evening...

Not interested in the head that comes with that talent.

My first two memories were not Lions games: First Lions memory: a basketball game. Against my uncles South Lyon varsity basketball team, the Lions of course. I think I was 8 or so IIRC and the Lions (S Lyon varsity) lost to the Lions (Detroit football players) pretty handily... I don't remember the game much but I've had a South Lyons program autographed by all the Lions (Detroit) players that played that night since then... They must not have made that much of an impression on me because I don't ever remember actually going to one of the football games (in the 70's)... My second memory was: in the 1980 draft when we drafted Billy Sims #1 overall. OK, NOW I was interested in the Lions and started following them (especially as a draftnik) since then... although I've only been to 1 or 2 games in the early 80's and none since... Maybe when I retire and get out of Jersey and do some travelling...

You can see the high end skills: outstanding reach, passing, puck-carry... some physicality. I also saw him get out-physicaled for the puck right next to the Detroit goal... I don't remember who took it from him but Simon ended up on his knees... I'm going to maintain that you'll see his skills but he needs another 10 pounds of muscle on that frame in order to reach the top of his game in the NHL. Half and half upper body and legs: More strength up top to absorb hits and legs to keep his skates underneath him... That, and just the usual experience... IMO.

PS: 3 sacks in 34 games? That's not a 3-tech and it's not even Jerry Ball. It's primarily a run-stuffer. Which is not bad at all for McNeill. But... that's what he is.

McNeil is not really a 3 and is more of a nose.

AAA. 8th-ish starter (from Detroit-perspective...).

Defense: D-Line depth, mostly DT - They don't NEED another outside pass-rusher but I won't rule it out, especially Anderson if he falls. I have no idea what they think of him. But I do NOT want to trade up for Anderson... I am not 100% in his camp as others on this board are... feel free to disagree. I think their bigger need is DT. A run-stopper would be a later pick (2nd to 6th...). A 3-technique rusher would be even better, IMO. (Maybe both if a 3-tech is drafted early and a run-stopper drafted later for depth...). The guy I like more than anyone else would be a starting run-stopping DE who can also rush the passer from the edge AND rush from the 3 (basically, someone who can play all over the D-Line...) and the guy I like who fits that more than anyone else is Myles Murphy. But he's my personal favorite and others like Tyree Wilson more for doing the same thing, and others prefer Anderson who would not be a 3-technique but is the superior edge pass-rusher. LB'er Depth - Could definitely use another guy here and I like guys in each of the 1st three rounds like Trenton Simpson (I like all the coverage LB'ers because that is our WEAKEST spot in the LB corps, especially covering TE's...!!!); Daiyon Henley, and DeMarvion Overshown... Safety & Cornerback depth - I could see a developmental pick for each of these positions... do they like Brian Branch in the 1st? Or Jordan Battle in the 3rd? Lots of guys available here in the early rounds and someone will slip to the 5th or 6th that they might like to add to the secondary room. As for CB, I still see the possibility of using anything from the #6, to #18, to early (2nd/3rd) to late (5th/6th) selection(s) on one or TWO CB's to add competition and depth to the room... there are a lot of nice CB's in this draft so I'll be disappointed if they don't grab a high-end/ high-round talent to add to the team. Later round flyers are great but... I want an early round selection used here on one guy. Kicker competition - really wanna see them use a 6th on another kicker to compete with Badgley. I don't think I'm the only guy here on board with that... I know a team is not supposed to draft a kicker, but, we've successfully done it before and... let's see what Holmes does...