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PS: Chile has the biggest reserves, Australia has the second most reserves but the largest current production of lithium... in case I didn't word that correctly...

Australia is the biggest supplier as of today I believe... We better be nice to them. Low population, lots of reserves... good for the US if that works out... Also, is that "proven" reserves? I'm taking that to mean that the geological surveys have been done (they use ground-penetrating radar for that...?) not necessarily mines dug to "prove" the lithium. Because what that also means from a US perspective is if we aren't looking for the stuff in the US (because of the environment/ politics/ etc...); we may have more lithium to be found but just nothing "proven" at this point. Or very little. Also... should we start capturing and mining asteroids? We have the technology. Just a thought... I think it's time to start...

All our Cindereller Fellers in the BP turning into Pumpkins...

Well this went to shit fast.

Same with Skubal. And Eduardo. And Brieske. These guys are all short-term outs, unless I'm mistaken. All back before September? Hill too for that matter, although I think he is still breathing in our rotation...?

There were no guarantees. There were never any guarantees. But on the flipside... If you have 12 guys who might turn into Jacque Jones, versus 1... might have a better chance of actually getting AT LEAST one Jacque Jones out of that, plus possibly one or two who might be even better, and the rest most likely will all flame out for one reason or another. Versus ONE, for whom an Org will live or die with. I prefer having this deep farm system, with a crapload of lottery tickets... rather than a system whose number TWO prospect is Christin frickin' Stewart and number FOUR prospect is Jacoby frickin's Jones. Than a system with Michael Fulmer as its number ONE prospect and Beau Burrows its number FOUR prospect. I'm done. I know exactly where I stand. And I know this system is worlds better than in 2016. And it's NOT EVEN CLOSE. I'm not going to be BS'ed by anyone anymore. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

I'm OK with having a few guys on the Tigers who are .240-.260 hitters, but are really good defensively and have a nice amount of pop (think 15-30 HR's or so) to go along with that. I think there are several guys we have, have lower hit tools than what the scouting reports said... but aren't going to Mendoza-Moya-Rey Rivera their way out of prospect status and may actually make it to MLB as that .240-.260 hitter with defense and Pop. Rogers has already shown that at Catcher... but we'll see how he comes back from Tommy John. I thought Dingler had a higher hit tool but he's falling into that range, as is Parker Meadows (who I had actually written off as another Moya after his first couple of years in the minors...). I have higher hopes for Wenceel's hit tool, as well as Keith, Carpenter, maybe Crouch too... I'm a little uncertain how that will play out for Pacheco and Kreidler at this point... They don't need to hit as high as Castellanos though... not if the D is just so much better....

He can bring a lot more heat than that. But if he's being pushed to NOT max out the MPH and it results in a lower speed FB but ALSO this much better control... that's probably a winning formula. And I am sure he can dial it back in when he needs to throw a 4-seamer at the top of the zone...

I think things have already gotten to a big enough scale. The issue, and to Del's point, is how to "mesh" all of these new green power systems, backup storage, availability, etc... Into a cohesive, DEPENDABLE electrical grid system, and also to understand what the new green system's CAPACITY will be, in relation to future DEMANDS. I think those are the three key words/ issues that we are looking at.

If he makes it through the 7th however I think it's time to make a move to the BP...

Aaah.. that's NOT Happening. He's still in... I was wondering what CCG's "frick" comment was on and 1776's surmise on calling it a day for Manning. Misassociative worrying.

So nothing happened to him (just confirming...) They just pulled him for a short (pitch count) outing? Yeah, I'm good with that.

So, all in July: M. Sequera .839 OPS C. Santana .824 OPS W. Perez 1.050 OPS D. Dingler .913 OPS P. Meadows .780 OPS I. Pacheco .756 OPS K. Carpenter .930 OPS J. Crouch .872 OPS And yet... everyone seems to think our current system is NO DIFFERENT than in 2016... NONE of those guys is better than Christin MTrucking Stewart or Jacoby Frickin' Jones! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I think Same Old Tigers has jaded everyone's view to the point that they can no longer see straight. But then again.. maybe it's just me... NOT!!!

6 shutout innings, 82 pitches... what happened that he's being pulled...?

Australia is a huge actor in the mining aspect, China is even bigger. We could be just as big... if we wanted to. We've already shown to have the natural resources but... yeah, the environment. I'm of the mind of: avoid strip mining; in any mining area replace the environment back to its pre-mining condition; require miners (and this is also true of oil and gas industry) to pay for either (A) Insurance, or a sinking fund, or a Surety type of Bond that is in place to guarantee coverage of any environmental damage; (B) A sinking fund or surety bond is repayable to the mining company or oil and gas company once an area has been left and any environmental damage repaired and paid for... they get it all back if no damage, or... in the case of the insurance, it is a sunk cost. But low cost with a good environmental record, high or uninsurable if a bad record. (C) this prevents the public from being forced to pay for private company damages. Puts a mechanism in place to cover environmental damages and incentives to not commit the damage in the first place... On the brownouts... The biggest issue with green power is its intermittent availability. So huge battery storage systems are already being built, in Australia that I know of... I'm guessing after California's brown outs that they are moving as fast as they can towards the same solution... I have no idea how that will all work out in the future nor how many EV's that may actually support, but... We'll see. Pretty soon I'm sure...

I already did that. 1982.

Now let's see them prove that out...

I think that's cause to question the bias in ESPN's algorithm.

They were NEVER high end to BEGIN with. That's my point.

Prospects from our pre-season 2022 prospects (I don't care where they were ranked) who have made it to MLB in 2022: Tork, Greene, Brieske, Wentz, Clemens, Faedo, Elvin Rodriguez. Did I miss anyone? Maybe Carpenter in September? maybe not.. if so.. 2023 Prospects I expect to see break into MLB sometime in 2023, even if it's just a cup: Wenceel Perez, Dillon Dingler, Parker Meadows, Reese Olson, Ryan Kreidler, Kerry Carpenter (if not this year), maybe Wilmer Flores too... Prospects who have ALREADY made in to MLB in the past couple of years: 2019 Jake Rogers & Tyler Alexander & Greg Soto, 2018 Spencer Turnbull, 2017 Joe Jimenez, 2020 Rookies: Casey Mize, Tarik Skubal, Daz Cameron, Rony Garcia, 2021 Rookies: Matt Manning, Akil Baddoo, Alex Lange, Jason Foley When was the last time our farm system was producing this much?

To expand upon this... I mean GEEZ, seriously! I'm nearly falling out of my chair just LOOKING at this!!! This is absolutely crazy and incedulous to me... Our top 5 in 2016 were: Michael Fulmer - Decent prospect, but not a high end one. 1.25 WHIP in the minors, less than 9 K's per 9.. and he was our Number ONE prospect?!?!?! Christin MT(rucking) Stewart, as number TWO? No glove. DH Only. Huge holes in his swing. But has some power. WHEN we drafted him. Our number TWO prospect in 2016? Beau Burrows, decent starter prospect. But NEVER much more than that, and not any different than Fulmer. As our number THREE prospect in 2016. JACOBY JONES was our number FOUR prospect in 2016. Athletic, might make it to MLB, has some speed but also some holes in his swing. But NEVER expected to amount to any kind of world-beater. Those were our TOP FOUR prospects in 2016. And somehow, you guys are trying to HORSESHIT me into thinking that we don't have better prospects today than in 2016??? I'm sorry, but I'm LMFAO right now. No, the problem is not me. I think you guys are just straight up blind, or are being obtuse. There is no possible way the prospects in our system RIGHT NOW aren't WORLDS BETTER than what we had in 2016. I think you guys are seriously just trying to HORSESHIT me right now.

Shades of a young Lou Whitaker... (Ducks as all the head shots come out swinging after that comment...)

If you cut Short... He's going to re-sign with Toledo. And if not... we're that stressed by losing Short? He can't be replaced by any AAAA shortstop with a glove that can't ber bought, traded for, etc? Cheaply too. His cost is close to zero in any circumstance. Seriously? You're that stressed out about losing Zach "Dime a Dozen" Short? Or you're stressed about the pending bankruptcy of the Tigers because the financial ramifications of Zach "Dime a Dozen" Short and/ or Ryan "Career utility Guy" Kreidler were not taken into consideration...? "Holy OVERBLOWN" Batman!!!

Same. If they need the development... got it. No worries. But if they have "earned a shot" on the other hand...

I still contend that it's not just hope or "thinking". It's not. There is no possible way that in 2016, with Christin "mother-trucking CRAP fielder, DH-Only, with huge flaws in his swing but has some power" Stewart the #2 prospect (number TWO!!!!); it is a comparable list to 2022. I mean, seriously? You can't find any prospects in 2022 that you like better than Christin MF'in (excuse the language... but I really didn't like Christin Stewart as a prospect at all) Stewart? Seriously? Because I stated this: "Christin Stewart was our #2 prospect? And you can't find one better prospect than him on our 2022 list? Seriously? Because I see 13 guys on our 2022 list that I like a whole lot more than Christin Stewart. And Beau Burrows. And Jacoby Jones..." If you can't find a few guys as better prospects than Christin Stewart on our 2022 list... then I don't think the fault, or Blind Faith, or my "thinking" is the flaw. It's not me at this point. Prove me wrong.