1984Echoes

I think we're getting into semantics here but... Just because a rebuild fails doesn't mean it should then be called a dismantling, IMO. Call it a failed rebuild (and that's not even yet to be determined), but it's not like they didn't try at all... This wasn't a Finley or Huizenga dump of any and all salaries come hell or high water... Miggy Cabrera, Zimmerman, Pelfrey (and others) PROVE that. And though all of those failed - spectacularly - the attempt to remain competitive and spend on salaries (badly) still disproves a "dismantling". And it's not as if we didn't hunt bargain FA's all along (we DID!!!) trying to find extra value or some form of competitiveness... it's just that most of Avila's signings did fail. Outside of Fiers, Grossman (for a year anyways), Schoop (same), Javier Baez, Eduardo Rodriguez... But failed signings is not a dismantling, it's a failed FA signing. I lived through, and watched, as Huizenga forced Dombrowski to trade off anyone, any veteran, and everyone, making decent money after the Marlins won their first World Series. A team that DD built from scratch. And then he traded and drafted their next World Series team. I know exactly what a dismantling looks like. And this was no dismantling. Not by a long-shot. A failed rebuild if anyone wants to call it that. But the funny thing is... If Manning/ Mize/ Skubal/ Dingler/ Tork/ Greene/ Carpenter/ Keith/ Wentz/ Turnbull/ Baez/ Rodriguez/ headline our next Playoff capable team... was this even a failed rebuild? Or was everyone just too impatient to ride this thing out?

And no one expects an "average" payroll during a rebuild. So your last 7 years' complaints are moot point.

Excuse me? Tone what down? Asking which planet you're from is so egregious that it needs to be "toned down"? Don't be so thin-skinned.

No, it is, and was a rebuild. It may be a rebuild with lots and lots of faults... but it is a rebuild.

But if they beat us twice... That just improved ALL of our own draft picks, from 1st round to 7th round. Your logic works both ways here...

LOL. During a rebuild. What were you expecting during a rebuild, a top 5 Payroll? Seriously, where does your logic come from? Which planet?

WORLD SERIES, HERE WE COME!!!

Dude... Suck it up and cheer the Vikes to one playoff win this year... Then you (and all of us) can go back to crapping/ hating on them as much as possible...

Maybe not gold... But even a RH'ed hitting OF'er who gets on base at an insane clip might be helpful...

Oh please dudes (and gals) catch Democracy Fever! It's catching and it actually makes you feel good!!!

I believe we can grab waived players for free however (if he wants to go that route), as well as Rule 5 guys; and also, I don't think bottom-of-the-roster guys underperformances will stop Harris from moving other bottom-of-the-roster guys...

Which already explodes Sabretooth's "projected reality" (my words) as PURE FANTASY. Dark and dreary fantasy... but fantasy nonetheless...

Also... what are the conditions on the "conditional" pick? If Hock plays x-amount of plays for the Vikes (or gets a certain number of catches/ yards...) could that pick actually DROP to a 5th or 6th that we would have to convey? That would make the trade, at face value, improve some.

Please explain to me how we LOST a lottery ticket in this deal. I don't trust your math.

... PARTICULARLY on the coaching.

I hope that's true. I also am hoping Dems hold the House and gain a seat in the Senate.

Wow... There is no basis for reality here whatsoever. This is nor realistic at all... it is simply your OWN PERSONAL PROJECTION. Quite a bit off the charts, and laughable, actually. Hilarious. Your PERSONAL PROJECTION onto what Ilitch/ Harris are going to do for Tigers is the OPPOSITE of reality. Just wanted to let you know that...

That sounds about right... Add in Husso as better than who played his ice time last year. If that infringes on some of Ned's games played... then... my statement remains the same.

Keys to the Kingdom.

Holy shit that was fast. I like him. But ~$20 Mill per year at years 34 and 35? I get it that he might be the right veteran to show these kids how to play in the NBA... still...

I think it's called: "Lions Fatigue". I don't know about you... but I'm exhausted with Lions' incessant foibles. I think my patience is gone. I'm not interested in repeating 5 years of Fontes or 5 years of Mornhinweg or 5 years of Quinntricia or anything like that anymore. I'm just exhausted. So I think my patience is gone. Campbell deserves a legitimate shot to show he can lead this team. But based on what I'm seeing, I don't know if that extends beyond this season. I get that the team isn't complete - talent-wise yet. But I'm seeing too many other problems with this team... that are a direct result of "coaching". From Campbell on down. I think any move during the season is idiotic. He should be given this year to make whatever of this team that he can... improvements or otherwise. But in the offseason: an evaluation needs to be made. Is Campbell the right guy? That's it. I don't have any more patience for dragging out years of a losing coach's inability to win games in the NFL.

Unless it's time to just straight up give up on Diallo and give him his release.

Bey belongs on the second unit. He might even dominate there. As Sixth Man.

It's more fun than scoring 37 and be losing 69-37 at the half...

Yeah it looks like Just Say No. They're already doing the same thing with Knox, giving him another shot. And they're not going to let go of McGruder's vet presence. I don't know how bad Primo's "offense" was but... don't see a reason or avenue to add him regardless.