1984Echoes

2023. Non-tender... he'll be off the 40-man roster. I think. So... we'll see. Will he sign an incentive laden minor league contract to rehab with the Tigers? Dunno. He'll be given a shot as a backup/ utility guy. IMO.

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Which is fine. But I'm thinking out of Faedo, Olson, Wentz: one of them will be capable of taking on some 5th or 6th starts... and be effective. I'd still want a veteran 5th/ 6th starter signed for the competition. And that's not even counting Alexander. I think Brieske or Elvin Rodriguez have to show something in AAA before we think that they could handle some emergency starts or middle relief or whatever... probably not till 2023 at the earliest (just guessing). PS: On Jobe: I don't think we even start considering him or Madden for at least a couple years... Unless he does turn out to be a fast riser...

That's why I said or similar. I'm not married to the idea of Peralta. Alternatively... we could sign someone who is effective at both reliever and spot starting, like Alexander... Collin McHugh. Steal him from the Rays...

Carlos Correa. Corey Knebel. Peralta or similar type for the 5th spot/ AAA.

Last 3 items on my offseason shopping list: Carlos Correa Corey Knebel Wily Peralta or similar to stash at AAA and compete for (or win) the 5th spot.

Health. That's really the ONLY reason to have Blough play a game (today or next week or otherwise) while Goff sits. On that basis, I agree with the confusion over Campbell not sitting Goff for one game when he was clearly at much less than 100%. Maybe Campbell was trying to establish Goff's toughness? For locker room purposes?

Goff at QB makes perfect sense for a rebuilding team. What exactly is being wasted?

Errr... Goff will be the starter in 2022, and maybe even in 2023... until we draft a QB and that QB is ready to take over the starting spot.

It's not like they have a whole lot of competition here... Houston has 1 win and the Jaguars and Jets have 2 wins... I don't think we'll get 2 wins, and we'll be lucky to even nab 1 against Chicago...

Montreal Canadiens, 4-10-1, 1-5-0 AWAY ESPN+ 7:00 PM Detroit Red Wings, 7-6-2, 4-2-2 HOME

By bringing a weapon, loaded for bear? Sure.

Bingo. And Funkhauser was a 4th.

This is the key. I see you also moved the goalposts since you realized Manning was not a top 5 1st rounder. But he's still draft and develop since he was so raw coming out of HS...

Yeah I saw the 7-1 shots on goal start... Must've deteriorated from there...

Ewww... maybe not such a good start after all... They're now down 2-0 with 2 minutes to go in the 1st period...

PS: Greiss is in goal tonight FYI.

That's Funny!!!

Correct. So we better hope this really is temporary and, during this winter (when the economy slows down naturally, at least a little bit), that inflation tempers relatively quickly. Personally, I still think this is an inflation blip due to restarting the economy from 20%-to-99% speed due to the pandemic. And things will get back to normal by March. Just in time for campaigning season...

Give me ONE top tier and... I won't worry about who ends up at the back end (5th starter) of the rotation. IE: Get me JV, and I'm happy.

Ned is just THAT good.

If no one else is starting this: Washington Capitals, 6-2-4, 2-1-1 AWAY ESPN+ 7:30 PM AT Detroit Red Wings, 7-5-2, 4-1-2 HOME

I think Faedo starts at AAA but ends up in Detroit's BP by mid-season June/July-ish... And dominates out of the BP...

I have a different short-cut, which is... IF you have a good Draft & Develop team: It may be possible to avoid my "second 10 years" for Model #1 (no championships but good for the prior decade; second decade = also-ran never making the playoffs, but trying with FA's or other methods.) By having some talented players coming up IF the farm system is maintained (not having top 10 1st rounders coming up but other prospects that were developed...), another pathway is provided to build serious play contending teams. But if a team is NOT good at drafting & developing, basically an empty farm system, then (A) IMO, there's no choice but to follow Model A in order to first repair the Farm System and then, hopefully, turn Model #2 into Model #1, or better... Including a Championship or two. But (B) An empty farm system means trying to maintain a playoff caliber team that no longer is playoff caliber, with nothing in the farm system to support being a playoff contender, is a fruitless and maddening exercise. With the most likely outcome a string of less than .500 teams, no years making the playoffs, and worse then losing 110 games each year for 5 years straight. Again, IMO. To me, it ALL depends on the farm system... if a team maintains it, it opens up multiple pathways, not just one (lose 110 games for 5 years straight to get a good team...). But if there's an empty farm system, I have no interest in trying to hunt 85 wins in a string of 75 win seasons. No thank you.

This. And by this, I mean playoff contender, NOT a middling 80 wins team every year that isn't good enough to make the playoffs. I mean a 90+ win team that makes the playoffs roughly 7 times out of 10 and just misses the other 3. With a championship or two tossed in there...