1984Echoes

I don't agree with this. I've waffled quite a bit between hanging on to Skubal for 2026 and settling for a draft pick after he leaves... And hoping he takes us all the way next year. Or trading him in the offseason. I believe we will get major offers this offseason. Offers that are too hard to pass up. This isn't all on you Shelton so others can pipe up or respond... just quotin you as the lead-in... I think it's convenient for someone to say "but they're only trading for ONE YEAR of Skubal!", except... that's not how certain Organizations think. We in fact, traded Maybin & Miller and other spare parts for Miggy and then proceeded to IMMEDIATELY extend a huge contract for him. After arbitration, they signed an 8-year $152 mill extension... before his free agent season even started. No one in here thinks that can't happen again? Dodgers? Phillies? Yankees? Etc. No one thinks they won't do the same? It doesn't even matter that it's Boras. Any one of them could easily sit down with Boras and hammer out a contract. In Spring Training 2026. And with that... After Skubal wins his second Cy Young this year... Big offers will come in. Here are two I guessed at on Page 3 (or 4) in here: Dodgers Offer: Emmett Sheehan, 25 yo RH SP; Emil Morales, 18 yo RH 3B; Josue De Paula, 20 yo LH OF; Jack Dreyer, 26 yo LH RP; Alex Freeland, 24 yo SS/3B. Phillies Offer: Andrew Painter, 22 yo RH SP; Justin Crawford, 21 yo LH CF; Orion Kerkering, 24 yo RH RP, Aidan Miller, 21 yo RH SS/3B, Mavis Graves, 21 yo LH SP (NEEDS to be converted to RP though...). Those are GOOD packages. And they will set us up not only for the future (better than a 2026 comp pick), but ALSO for 2026. We have just as good a chance to win it all in 2026 with either of these returns, as we do with just Skubal. IMO. And Dombrowski has NO reticence to trade big name prospects... None at all. Neither do the Dodgers, who are ALL-IN chasing championships. I think it's wrong to just dismiss offers that we will receive this offseason out of hand. Not saying you're doing that Shelton... but I think others are...

More than that. Trump and the ICE wanted IRS records to track down legal/illegals that they didn't like so they could deport them and... the IRS head refused. So he got canned. And Bessent will, obviously, hand over the records to the ICE.

They need some help though... I'd like to see Kasper up there with those two. Probably Edvinsson too... except I like it that they have them separated so there is one dominant D on the ice most of the time. That would make it hard for both Seider AND Simon to be up there... And... they need to find the right partner for each of them.

He has a .367 OPS against lefties this year so Hinch may not be this-year-active with that... SSS. But still... He did better last year against lefties at .718 so... at some point, Hinch will go back to him for another try methinks...

Kerry "Bonds" Carpenter.

Well... obviously, this is the KEY question!!!

Where is the Motown Forums IN-DEPTH analysis of this guy we just traded for? Is he any good? Does he have 5 tools? How many cousins does he have? What was the name of his Venezuelan Little League team in 3rd grade? The Maracay Margates?

Negative is good. Positive means it's fractured or worse.

BEAUTIFUL outing by Melton. My guess is he's done for the day... That **** umpire was squeezing him at the end. There was a definite strike not anywhere close to the edge or anything and that's a ball? FU Ump.

So now trading for Paddock is simply treading water...

Yes. Oh wait... OUCH! Now trade for Jacon DeGrom please.

Also, Pacheco is 22 (and in high-A)... Has he found his batting stroke, like Meadows... after struggling just barely over the Mendoza for his career so far...? Enquiring minds want to know.

I think Melton has more starter upside... long-term. But this would be a great year to break him into the playoffs as a bullpen guy... Per one inning stints, as you say...

THAT I could live with. And not just Melton... I think Montero would be much, much better in the bullpen.

Well that certainly makes this trade a WIN!!!

He has a 1.28 WHIP this year and a 1.21 career WHIP so he's pitching on a par with Flaherty and Mize. One of these 3 goes to the bullpen in the post-season.

If we can avoid any more Montero starts a huge win for me.

The flipside is I wonder if they start losing games from losing one of their top two relievers that would knock them out of wild card contention. Too close to the deadline for the team to decide what the impact of losing Clase will have... But for what it's worth, if I were the Tigers I'd have more interest in Cade Smith anyways... Not that there was any chance of that happenin'...

6'0" switch-hitter... (PS: It's Danandres Colon per the profile sites...): This was on Sports Recruit dot com: Danandres Colon's Baseball Recruiting Profile My name is Danandres Colon, I am 15 and I was born in Allentown, PA. I moved to Eagle Lake, FL with my family when I was 4. I have brother who is 13 and a sister who is 22. My father is from Puerto Rico and My mother is from Colombia. This is the reason why I am fully bilingual in English and Spanish. I go to a Hispanic church called Corazones Agradecidos with my family. My favorite subject is Math and I play the French Horn in my school band. I enjoy listening to music and playing MLB the show. My favorite baseball team is the New York Yankees and my favorite baseball player is Roberto Clemente, the reason why I wear his number #21. I started switch hitting when I was 13 and half years old. Prep Baseball dot com: Danandres Colon CLASS OF 2025 SS 2B Danandres Colon Lakeland Christian School (HS) • FL 6' 0" • 180LBS S/R • 18yr 5mo Travel Team: Top Tier (These look like they're from 2023...): 60 time: 7.43 Infield velocity: 85 Hand Speed: 22.7 Exit Velocity: 98.1 (high) Bat Speed: 78.9 (average) Average Launch Angle 22%

Two thumbs up on that. I Concur!

So ****ing sad. And so ****ing true.

Just for arguments' sake... Now change those names to: Jacob DeGrom (or Joe Ryan); Mason Miller, and Austin Riley.

This.

Even BETTER! Matt "I'm 27 and I STILL haven't found what I'm looking for" Manning. Alex "I have no idea where the ball is going" Lange. And Jason "Mmmm, good coffee!" Foley. As our late innings TRIFECTA!!! You know. Like Cerberus. A 3-headed monster... or dog... or... something.

Can we combine the two trade threads?