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No Rubio passed a law a few years ago requiring 2/3's in both Houses for just exactly this. They expected Trump to pull this horse****. Still... It is STILL Horse****!!!

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I think that has shown up the past month but isn't half of Grand Rapids playing in Detroit the past month? I don't want to use that as an excuse... But... As to your 2nd string comment... Additionally, who would I want as a mentor for Cossa as he broke into the NHL...? Maybe... John Gibson?

American refineries are built to process mostly "heavy" crude oil... which comes from Canada and Venezuela. That means they refine sulfur and other "heavy" or "dirty" non-oil elements out of their input oil before they attempt to refine it into end-use products. American oil has almost always been "sweet crude" (very LITTLE contaminants); although I'm not certain if fracted oil is sweet or heavy. I'm not certain how many American refineries process sweet crude versus heavy crude... Maybe G2 can answer that. Before fracted oil, we imported a lot from Saudi Arabia. I don't know if today we import ANY oil from foreign countries aside from Canada & Venezuela... Maybe Mexico too? But no: This tells me that I don't think your "oil expert" is an oil expert. It sounds like complete bull**** to me. Ask G2 for the correct answers.

Just a WAG: When the weather warms up... I think they start playing better. I don't think this is a cold-weather team. IMO. PS: I can NOT explain last year though...

It's just too early for this. Not even a dozen games played yet...? Then again... Can't wait to see THIS!!!

So he is 75 points under on BABIP... When his BABIP stabilizes and if he can up his LD% to a significant degree (small sample size after all...); Sure, I think we'all could have a conversation on the effectiveness of any supposed changes that Greene made... Today: I don't think I'm there yet... give him another month or thereabouts...

I guess I should add Peck in there too... To see if he can take another step up at the higher level...

Cossa could have easily played 30-40 games this year, with Talbot used only during injuries/ emergencies or an occasional start on a back-to-back (or 3 games in 4 nights...) or a bad game by Cossa or Gibson (IE: coming in the 2nd period after the starter gives up 5 goals...). IMO.

This is just my opinion... But if we had had Sebastian Cossa as 2nd goalie behind Gibson all year, instead of Talbot... We'd be in the playoffs right now. I also believe Gibson would have played less the past month or so... in which McLellan has simply worn him down by overplaying him (Talbot started ONCE in March...), and BOTH: Gibson would be sharper in the games he has played... and Cossa would have won a couple games that Gibson got blown out in... I think he would have been worth 5 more outright wins for the Wings. IMO.

Interested this year in seeing if any of Pacheco, Strong, or Campos can take a step forward and move up to "real" prospect status, or do they just get stuck in "career minor-leaguer" purgatory... Yet to be determined... (IMO).

Didn't Klintman have some range? I don't want to call him a 3&D guy... but I thought he did have some range to his shot...?

I don't know how much Holmes has participated in sending out smoke screens... trying to get teams "off the scent" of who their actual target is... so to speak... But: I also was much. much higher on Quinyon Mitchell in that draft. If they truly wanted Mitchell... and word got out of their interest in him so Philly jumped Detroit in the 1st round to steal him... I would consider that a big loss. IMO. And Holmes, despite all the "We really wanted Arnold", if he TRULY had Mitchell higher... then rightfully should be both pissed, and scarred by losing out on his player due to rumors of their heavy interest. I'm just going to WAG here... Holmes is NOT in love with Proctor, yes Tater, visions of Aaron Gibson scare me too... Or at least I hope not, and this is just a smoke screen to hide who they truly have their top interest in... I also like Freeling, Lomu and Miller... a LOT. I think all 3 are 10 year guys at OT. I won't hazard a guess as to which one is Brad's favorite; but I believe all 3 are high character/ locker room leader types/ and athletic enough to be a top 10-15 OT in the NFL (well, OK, we'll see about all 3 of them getting to that level...). So... One more WAG: I think it's one of THESE guys that the Lions love, and they are doing their best to not give away the cards that they are holding in their hand. One of those cards is Ace High, IMO. Just my 2 cents.

Trump = Hugo Chavez 2.0... ABJECTLY STUPID.

I'm on board with getting the playoff monkey off their back... if they can even manage that... I sincerely hope that make the playoffs or not... that the writing is on the wall to clear out the old deadwood. Marching back the same team or close to the same team with nothing but marginal moves, IMO, is beyond idiotic. Playoffs or not.

I might be saying the same thing here... but let me put it my way: I have always been on the "out with the unproductive old and in with the new and unproven" bandwagon. I'll take rookie mistakes and such because I want to see exactly what we have... or don't have. And with some of these kids, it takes an NHL year or two to find out. So I am on board right now with "Clean House". On the Wings roster. All the players that McClellan believes are nothing more than "shirts on ice"... dump them. For 6th and 7ths if that's the best we can get. For something better if that's possible. For nothing if that's required. But OUT with the OLD and in with the new. It will probably be a step back. Maybe even a HUGE step back. But put it on the kids. To either step up and show they belong in the NHL... or not. It may even take a year or two to flesh out what we are working with. And there will be lots of pain involved, I am sure. If at the end of 2 years all of SY's "prospects" are nothing but crap... Then it's time to clean house in the front office and start anew. Yzerman has spent YEARS "building up the farm system". There either is something to that... Or he's been a failure. With picks/ development... it doesn't matter. And that means going outside the Org, not just stepping up a SY crony. IMO.

If they truly are in love with Proctor, then... 1) He needs to be committed to maintaining his weight at less than 350. Are/ will the Lions bought into this? 2) He has inconsistencies due to excess weight; IMO, this will always be a career-long worry. 3) He can be burned by speed/ quick-changes... he's not a fast-twitch guy/ his weight is great for momentum (rush-blocking... like a runaway freight train); not so good at making quick adjustments to a man with a pass-rush-plan. I'm not sold on this player. And I'm not sold on the Lions interest in him either, despite Campbell and Jeremiah reporting their interest. But what do I know... maybe? Just my 2 cents.

No, not yet. This is still a valid thread until... The Wings make it... Invalid. Is this already a team of invalids? Maybe... Lord Stanley is putting in such hard work though... I say let him finish the job!

We are facing, right now, in this game: Brock Faber, RHD, 23, drafted 2nd round #45 (I didn't look up how Minny got this pick from LA...) in the 2020 draft. This is his 3rd full year in the NHL. 2 games, 82, 78, 77 this year (with today's game). 6' 1" 210 #'s, 51 points this year in 77 games (that includes this game)... +22. We had (3) 2nd rounders that year and (2) 3rds (Lucas Raymond draft): #32 William Wallinder, 51 Niederbach, 55 Cross Hanas, #63 (3rd round) Donovan Sebrango, 70 Eemil Viro... Draft is a crapshoot, I know.... Just sayin'

Weak Wings = Week-old wilted flowers.

He's coming on fast... to Detroit... And whenever that happens... Another domino shall fall.

That would be an excellent get if they could nab Freeling at #17... (IMO).

I wouldn't mind another lottery shot at a backup QB... I don't think it's the best idea to keep bringing Teddy B back. As long as it's a 4th rounder or later. Isn't Carson Beck projected around the 4th round? And he's similar to Goff in size and physical attributes and accuracy?

I did a PFF mock and Freeling was selected two picks before the Lions so... I decided to trade whenever it made sense, either down, or to move up if I were after a player... So I ended up trading down twice in the 1st, and... I don't remember the rest of my trades but... I ended up with pick #28 in the 1st round, two 2nds, three 4ths, two 5ths, and one 6th... these were my selections: 1. 28 Blake Miller, RT 9.97 RAS, 6' 6" 315 #'s Extremely athletic both pass-block and run-block 2. 50 E. McNeil-Warren, S 6' 3" 210, 4.52 40 Brian Branch 2.0 2. 51 Zion Young, DE 6' 6" 265, 4.70 Developmental multi-skilled DE. Can start in a rotation... 4. 118 Max Klare, TE 6' 4.5" 245, 4.66 Excellent receiver and good blocking skills 4. 119 Eli Raredon, TE 6' 7" 250, 4.62 Massive blocking TE with good receiving skills 4. 128 Devin Moore, CB 6' 3" 200, 4.50 Skilled at press and zone, can cover big WR's/ TE's/ etc. 5. 157 Daylen Everette, CB 6' 1" 196, 4.38 Developmental CB with excellent athletic traits. 5. 181 Adam Randall, RB 6' 3" 232, 4.50 Former WR with top explosiveness, receiving skills, pass-blocking, etc… STEAL?! 6. 189 Kendal Daniels, LB/Edge 6' 5" 242, 4.76 Rush and/or Coverage LB'er but… slow? PS: I could have picked a better speed-rusher off the edge in the 5th round, but decided to double up on big, fast CB's...

He's under contract for next season too... So... Incomplete. But definitely ASP needed to go down to GR. And the Wings needed Faulk to absorb 2nd pairing minutes because of that. Although I've read that he & Chiarot are NOT a match made in heaven... to me that means Chiarot needs to be pushed down to 3rd pair... except who's going to push him down...? ALJO? Nope. Back to Faulk... If they would only bring up Buium or Wallinder... I think he'd be the perfect mentor/ fit for a young LH'ed D'man just breaking into the NHL... I REALLY want to see a 2nd pair next year of Buium and Faulk... I'll let you know how I REALLY feel about the trade for Faulk by next year's trade deadline... I think he was a good add... although it did cost that 1st round pick... Just my 2 cents.