1984Echoes

I'm on board with getting the playoff monkey off their back... if they can even manage that... I sincerely hope that make the playoffs or not... that the writing is on the wall to clear out the old deadwood. Marching back the same team or close to the same team with nothing but marginal moves, IMO, is beyond idiotic. Playoffs or not.

I might be saying the same thing here... but let me put it my way: I have always been on the "out with the unproductive old and in with the new and unproven" bandwagon. I'll take rookie mistakes and such because I want to see exactly what we have... or don't have. And with some of these kids, it takes an NHL year or two to find out. So I am on board right now with "Clean House". On the Wings roster. All the players that McClellan believes are nothing more than "shirts on ice"... dump them. For 6th and 7ths if that's the best we can get. For something better if that's possible. For nothing if that's required. But OUT with the OLD and in with the new. It will probably be a step back. Maybe even a HUGE step back. But put it on the kids. To either step up and show they belong in the NHL... or not. It may even take a year or two to flesh out what we are working with. And there will be lots of pain involved, I am sure. If at the end of 2 years all of SY's "prospects" are nothing but crap... Then it's time to clean house in the front office and start anew. Yzerman has spent YEARS "building up the farm system". There either is something to that... Or he's been a failure. With picks/ development... it doesn't matter. And that means going outside the Org, not just stepping up a SY crony. IMO.

If they truly are in love with Proctor, then... 1) He needs to be committed to maintaining his weight at less than 350. Are/ will the Lions bought into this? 2) He has inconsistencies due to excess weight; IMO, this will always be a career-long worry. 3) He can be burned by speed/ quick-changes... he's not a fast-twitch guy/ his weight is great for momentum (rush-blocking... like a runaway freight train); not so good at making quick adjustments to a man with a pass-rush-plan. I'm not sold on this player. And I'm not sold on the Lions interest in him either, despite Campbell and Jeremiah reporting their interest. But what do I know... maybe? Just my 2 cents.

No, not yet. This is still a valid thread until... The Wings make it... Invalid. Is this already a team of invalids? Maybe... Lord Stanley is putting in such hard work though... I say let him finish the job!

We are facing, right now, in this game: Brock Faber, RHD, 23, drafted 2nd round #45 (I didn't look up how Minny got this pick from LA...) in the 2020 draft. This is his 3rd full year in the NHL. 2 games, 82, 78, 77 this year (with today's game). 6' 1" 210 #'s, 51 points this year in 77 games (that includes this game)... +22. We had (3) 2nd rounders that year and (2) 3rds (Lucas Raymond draft): #32 William Wallinder, 51 Niederbach, 55 Cross Hanas, #63 (3rd round) Donovan Sebrango, 70 Eemil Viro... Draft is a crapshoot, I know.... Just sayin'

Weak Wings = Week-old wilted flowers.

He's coming on fast... to Detroit... And whenever that happens... Another domino shall fall.

That would be an excellent get if they could nab Freeling at #17... (IMO).

I wouldn't mind another lottery shot at a backup QB... I don't think it's the best idea to keep bringing Teddy B back. As long as it's a 4th rounder or later. Isn't Carson Beck projected around the 4th round? And he's similar to Goff in size and physical attributes and accuracy?

I did a PFF mock and Freeling was selected two picks before the Lions so... I decided to trade whenever it made sense, either down, or to move up if I were after a player... So I ended up trading down twice in the 1st, and... I don't remember the rest of my trades but... I ended up with pick #28 in the 1st round, two 2nds, three 4ths, two 5ths, and one 6th... these were my selections: 1. 28 Blake Miller, RT 9.97 RAS, 6' 6" 315 #'s Extremely athletic both pass-block and run-block 2. 50 E. McNeil-Warren, S 6' 3" 210, 4.52 40 Brian Branch 2.0 2. 51 Zion Young, DE 6' 6" 265, 4.70 Developmental multi-skilled DE. Can start in a rotation... 4. 118 Max Klare, TE 6' 4.5" 245, 4.66 Excellent receiver and good blocking skills 4. 119 Eli Raredon, TE 6' 7" 250, 4.62 Massive blocking TE with good receiving skills 4. 128 Devin Moore, CB 6' 3" 200, 4.50 Skilled at press and zone, can cover big WR's/ TE's/ etc. 5. 157 Daylen Everette, CB 6' 1" 196, 4.38 Developmental CB with excellent athletic traits. 5. 181 Adam Randall, RB 6' 3" 232, 4.50 Former WR with top explosiveness, receiving skills, pass-blocking, etc… STEAL?! 6. 189 Kendal Daniels, LB/Edge 6' 5" 242, 4.76 Rush and/or Coverage LB'er but… slow? PS: I could have picked a better speed-rusher off the edge in the 5th round, but decided to double up on big, fast CB's...

He's under contract for next season too... So... Incomplete. But definitely ASP needed to go down to GR. And the Wings needed Faulk to absorb 2nd pairing minutes because of that. Although I've read that he & Chiarot are NOT a match made in heaven... to me that means Chiarot needs to be pushed down to 3rd pair... except who's going to push him down...? ALJO? Nope. Back to Faulk... If they would only bring up Buium or Wallinder... I think he'd be the perfect mentor/ fit for a young LH'ed D'man just breaking into the NHL... I REALLY want to see a 2nd pair next year of Buium and Faulk... I'll let you know how I REALLY feel about the trade for Faulk by next year's trade deadline... I think he was a good add... although it did cost that 1st round pick... Just my 2 cents.

THAT... Is a FANTASTIC view!!!

Watching Earthrise, inside that capsule, in and of itself would be... Overwhelming. I would be... Emotional!!!

In order to overthrow the Constitution of the United States and install Drumpf as Permanent Dictator: they (Drumpf and Kegsbreath) need to purge the military of any Dem-leaning military leaders and replace them with Fascist MAGA Military. The military will now follow the orders of "Dear Leader" no matter what those orders are. Drumpf will order the US military to take over the country to enforce his dictatorship; shooting any and all protestors against his fascist regime. ICE will be the para-military street thugs that also commit these murders, but more importantly, they will make certain the US Army follows Drumpf's orders to murder US citizens. The murder of any US citizen that speaks ill of their "Dear Leader" can now be performed by: ICE, the US Army, the FBI, the CIA. All now murder organizations completely under the thumb of Drumpf and MAGA.

Refs have already been ****ing the Pistons. Three straight drives Duren scores THROUGH Gobert's arms not one ****ing call. Gobert was all over him... A ticky-tack touch on Randle = foul called on the Pistons. The Refs are trying to **** us this game.

OUCH!!!

4 years running...

That is the difference between the MLB player's union and the NFL player's union...

I think this year's #15 pick is more valuable to the Detroit Pistons than 2027 and 2029 1sts (with protections) ... IMO.

Caris LeVert would be high on the list of salaries to dump. He's making near-$15 mill next year. And would be an easy guy to replace with someone better... If we're looking to move $30 mill... I guess that could include Stew. But the team LOVES him so I'm not so certain. I like your logic though... and if the right trade were available maybe they do that trade... but for who? Tyler Herro? Someone else? In a 3-way so Miami gets Giannis and we get Herro and the Bucks get our 2 guys...? I would think the Bucks would prefer Herro over Stew & LeVert so that's not doable... Just thinking out loud here...

Also... I would guess that the signing bonus is for the entirety of the contract. I'm giving a guy a $20 mill signing bonus to play for my team for the next 5 years. If he plays 3 and then retires... He's only earned 3/5 of that signing bonus, and owes back $8 mill for contractual non-performance. ... I'll get off of my business-law soapbox now...

Do it. Future 1st for the #15. Same here. Do-everything-PF... including having some range. I want Yaxel. Or Cedric Cenac Jr. (similar to Jaren Jackson Jr. per scouting reports...) At 15 and 21 we could get a couple players that can hit a 3. How about a stretch-4/5 in Henry Veesaar? If Langdon could pull OKC's #15 1st rounder this year... it could really set this team up in the near future. Based specifically on that... I would guess OKC doesn't even want to deal with Detroit. Not in their best interest.

"Look in the mirror, dude".

Seriously!!!

Please Mize... More of this!