1984Echoes

Nothing counts until the actual ink is dry.

I could also see this. Marlins want a 1B'man. Tork plus a minors IF'er for Edward Cabrera. I would be FOR that trade...

We could easily send them Rogers (a vet for them, one year commitment, a mentor for young Will Smith). Rushing is a LH'ed bat that has played both Catcher and 1B. He'll get some playing time even if Dingler catches 120-140 games. If there's two more pieces, I want their high-end LH'ed pitching prospect Jackson Ferris. And...? 5th guy can be sort of a "anything goes" guy to me. Oh... and I still want $4.4 mill in 2027 International Signing Bonus Pool money...

Since Glasnow's name has been bandied about... Now I want him. As our closer. I think Sheehan is on the verge of becoming a beast starter. So I will counter with Emmett Sheehan, Tyler Glasnow, Dalton Rushing, Zyhir Hope, Jackson Ferris and $4.4 Mill International Signing Bonus Pool money for: Skubal and Eduardo Valencia.

PS: One more thing I want from the Dodgers if they do indeed trade for Skubal: Their International signing bonus pool. I believe our cap that we can trade for is 60% of our own existing pool. I believe we have a pool of $7.357 mill, so $4.4 mill from the Dodgers. I want that included.

That's why he's only a throw-in and nothing more. I attach little to no value to him. However... If he is a toss-in.. I wanna try him as a LH'ed shut down reliever. Which is useful in our division. Maybe 1-inning stints will keep him off the disabled lists...?

a KTLA-TV sports announcer... I guess.

May or may not be real... Some smoke from L.A. .... ATF may, or may not get, his big Dodgers trade (PS: if Glasnow is included he better be a throw-in because I attach very little future value... or maybe turn him into a closer. I think THAT might maximize his value as a strike-em-out shut-them-down reliever that we don't currently have...): Dodgers 'in talks' to trade for Tarik Skubal: Report According to KTLA-TV in Los Angeles’ David Pingalore, the Dodgers are “in talks on a potential mega trade for (Detroit Tigers) ace Tarik Skubal.” I don't know if Pingalore is just another talking head or if he does get some insider info from the Dodgers team... Just posting those rumors as they come down the pipeline. I would really like Sheehan. I think he could be dominate. And would be a worthy replacement for Skubal (after Fetter gets his mitts on him...).

The only thing I would say about Gibson's game yesterday is that... I hope he goes on a nice long streak for the next 4 months with games just like it. Not all shutouts of course. But give this team a chance in each game...

You mean "off the rails"? Yeah, I'm not looking for, or desire that either. I just wanted to call out two diametrically opposed viewpoints that are proliferating on the forum as to the Tigers future playoff chances... with, or without, Skubal.

??? Please explain to me how "These are your posts. These are your words." is some sort of personal attack?

Which is funny, because... wasn't it Harris who said: "calculated risks"?

I believe that started here with Brad Ausmus? A "college boy" who wasn't a winner and therefore let's pejorative?

He's hoping for a Lorenzen/ Eduardo Rodriguez/ Flaherty (circa 2024) run.

These are some of your BEST: On 10/31/2025 at 8:46 AM, chasfh said: And this doesn’t even take into account the effect such a trade …would have on the rest of the guys who are already here, as well as the guys who are due to come up. Who’s going to gladly bust their ass for a team that purposely trades their way out of playoff contention? (My right now comments): so ALL of our players are just going to give up according to you if we trade Skubal, including all of our minor leaguers coming up. Because who on this team is going to actually try... if we trade Skubal? Pretty fatalistic if you ask me. On 11/4/2025 at 11:51 AM, chasfh said: … position his team to get back to that same place no sooner than three years from now, which is 2028, at best, and probably more like 2029 or even 2030. (My right now comments): 2029? 2030? Seriously? Continuing with your same post: ... But what is arguably even worse is that Harris would lose the players in the organization … Riley Greene or Spencer Torkelson, Dillon Dingler, or a Jackson Jobe, or Kevin McGonigle or Max Clark or a dozen other ranked young talents … but also, the free agents outside of this organization. What halfway decent free agent in his right mind is going to sign with a team operating with the expressed intent of going backward the year they come aboard? Who on god's green earth would want to sign up for that? And not only free agents this year, but free agents every single year Scott Harris is running this team. No top-tier free agent would ever want to devote … at any given moment, they are willing to blow it all up and go backwards because it might pay out four or five years now. Trading Tarik Skubal this winter is practically guaranteed to limit our prospective free agent pool to guys who are willing to sign one-year prove-it deals, and nothing more, for the rest of Harris's tenure with us. So you are LITERALLY (YOUR words, YOUR posts) saying that if we trade Skubal: No quality free agent (except 1 year guys) will EVER sign with the Tigers as long as Harris is GM. All of our players will quit playing hard. And that includes all our minor leaguers breaking into MLB soon. And most likely we will not be able to contend again until 2029 or 2030. Is that literal enough for you? Is that NOT the entire Org? Or do I need the actual words that I used to appear in one of your posts in order to satisfy your demand? Fatalism BEYOND BELIEF. IMO.

You are literally posting that if we DO trade Skubal this winter that the entire Org WILL fall apart and we won't contend again until "most likely 2030." All in your own words.

Harris just flat out refuted (indirectly, not directly) with what he is saying. No big moves. No blocking of prospects. Just some holes to fill. Whatever he ends up doing, Harris will not meet Rosenthal's expectations or exhortations. I would prefer a couple big moves. But c'est la vie.

They commented specifically on that. He added a pretty effective change-up (I mean, for Korea) that they liked... And I think improved his command and is missing more bats with the combo... We'll see how he does coming back to the U.S. soon enough.

No wonder Larkin Raymond Finnie and Seider & Edvinsson are just chilling out tonight! "Let the other guys bask in the limelight a little!" "Let's just chill and let them have their fun instead!" "We can coast for once!"

I agree. But Scott Boras is standing in our way.

3-0 at the end of 2. JVR, Danielson and Copp scored... NOT the usual suspects (I mean, JVR lately, yeah... but those 3 as a combo scoring those goals... hmmm). And Chiarot and ASP are +3... WTF?!?!?! (said with a smile on my face of course...)

The flipside to that is... very shortly... we WON'T be paying: Baez $24 mill per year. Torres $22 mill per year. Flaherty $20 mill per year. Doesn't that free up payroll to pay for OTHER talent? You could add in McKinstry's $4 mill because at some point, he will be replaced by Hao Yu Lee or Trei Cruz or... And when Max Anderson and McGonigle and Clark come up... Don't we want at least ONE or TWO well-regarded veterans mixed in with those guys? Again... I'm not worried about payroll the next several years, at all. And I don't think Harris, or Chris Ilitch, is either. Just my 2 cents.

OK I can concede that. But even if it's bullpen, I don't think it would be pure bullpen. I think it would veer more towards long man/6th starter when needed, or to cover a missed start or a few... So at least partially a starter... But just guessing here...

I have many. But this was so hilarious putting together... I just couldn't pass it up! PS: Ask me about my baseball card collection (I know, what a kid am I ... !)

I wouldn't worry about depleting resources. With a lot of kids coming up our payroll should be able to handle a few vets, even if they are costly. But Skubal isn't signing a free agent contract this offseason with us. So this isn't even relevant until offseason 2026. Any FA's that sign with Detroit aren't signing because Skubal is here ONLY in 2026, or HAS an extension or DOESN'T have an extension. There are only two reasons a FA will sign with Detroit this offseason, and neither have anything to do with Skubal: 1) Money 2) They WANT to be here.