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Also: I suspect part of this is personality. Some people are ALWAYS critical or negative. Some are ALWAYS "sunny side up", and most people are somewhere in the middle. For me... ONLY negative personalities are hard to take.

PS: Scientists have created anti-matter particles FYI, for an instant, out of thin air or, "nothing". Just for an instant until they contact a particle of matter and then evaporate... but it's been done. I'd have to go search for that test/ study... this is just off the top of my head...

SciFi version: Matter and Anti-Matter "universes" held at a pinpoint, separated but completely in balance (like as inside of a "snowball", but separated into left and right "hemispheres" and unable to "touch" the other (in which matter and anti-matter would completely destroy each other, if they "touched" each other... leading to... nothing) by a positive-positive magnetic wall (two positives reject each other in magnetism, therefore creating the "wall"). The APPEARANCE would look like "nothing"; but the entire universe is inside that snowglobe. Hidden by the tiny size of the immense gravity of the compacted universe into that tiny space... and the equal and identical (mirror image) anti-matter universe. One anti-matter proton-neutron-electron particle expires (went past its "expiration date" - haha, just a joke here... but give me some leeway...). The imbalance, anti-matter side now has one less hydrogen particle then the matter side, leads to... The Big Bang. The Matter Universe (which we are in... because, we "matter"... haha) explodes into existence. The Anti-Matter Universe ALSO explodes into existence, but in the anti-matter dimension instead of our "Matter" dimension. So there you go... I just created the Big Bang.

And I've already argued that our "consciousness" is a combination of our memory capacity and our language skills (Broca's area) ARE our consciousness. I may be wrong on that point. But biochemically speaking... I don't believe so. I think you are still looking for that "interface" but there is no interface needed between Broca's area and motor skill areas. It's simply one biochemical reaction (Broca's area or our "thought" area) in our neural networks, which we have some control over, to another neural network controlling motor skills. Yes, last comment: Just in case you weren't considering this: You are trying to add an inefficiency into our brains looking for some interface. It's an extra step. And in evolution (at least prior to us, for the most part, conquering lethal threats), an inefficient or "slowdown" step would be fatal, and lead to an ending of that genetic lineage. IE: My thinking neural networks speak directly to my motor skill networks so I am up the tree first... Your thinking neural networks are still searching for that "Interface" and therefore... That Lion just ate your ass. My genetic lineage continues. Yours does not. "Food for thought".

They are brain activity experts. G2 is a chemical engineer, if I have that correct. G2 is chasing a ghost, that does not exist, by trying to force chemical engineering into human biochemistry and neural evolution. He is not correct. There are a lot more brain activity experts that agree, not just psychologists. You need to check on your smell test there... Sorry.

I disagree with your premise. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-forward/202304/how-your-thinking-affects-your-brain-chemistry#:~:text=Your thoughts can also influence,responding to a perceived threat. KEY POINTS Your thoughts are transmitted via neurotransmitters and other neurochemicals. You can proactively release various feel-good neurotransmitters in your brain based on what you think about. Your brain chemistry changes physical structures in your brain and body. A direct refutation of your premise.

No... But he IS A.J. Hinch...

Yes, I've already answered this. At least twice. But yes... lets see if we can get on the same wavelength. I know what wavelength I am on and I think I can "see" what wavelength you are on... But I'd like to move to a "no doubt" understanding of this... I'm going to call it the Brain Operational Theory. What are you looking for? I got your description above. You previously called it the "Interface between Mind and Brain". Your description is the actual biochemical reaction that signifies a decision has been made which will then direct your biomechanics to follow the directives of your decision. Do I have this correct? So, again, what are you looking for? Do you believe there is a section of the brain where these chemical reactions should be located? And no one has been able to find them, as you've described above? I would call this G2's Brain Operational Theory. I know my Brain Operational Theory is different and I will see if I can get us reconciled. I can give a clue: Neurons firing ARE chemical reactions. I know that you know this... If you know biochemistry then you know this to be true... so my next question is: Why are you not considering the Neural Patterns THEMSELVES as the chemical process that changes the physical state of stasis?

The actual theme of this year's draft thread. But to reiterate: "Can we not do this anymore"? (worry about which top 5 draft spot we'll be getting after another crappy season...)

Perfect.

It's late and I'm tired so I'm going to sleep on that thought for at least tonight... But I think I get what you are asking and am formulating a response in my head... But I'm going to finish that thought tomorrow...

That wasn't a backflip... It was an Aerial Launch. I was worried only about how hard it would be coming back down to Earth after hitting apogee. He wasn't landing in the Atlantic, it was a ground landing. I did worry about that potential landing...

So I think a secondary, but very important need this offseason, after the "D", is to address O-Line depth. Jonah Jackson needs to be signed, IMO. I like Glasgow, anywhere... But there's no depth if one of our interior guys goes down. Sorsdal is obviously not an answer, at least not yet... And Ragnow is having more difficulties with his toe and his overall health so... IMO: I think it is critical to sign Jackson to a long term contract, and find an answer for depth at C/OG to go behind Ragnow/ Glasgow/ Jackson. Also, related: Do we search for a longer term option for "after-Decker", or not yet?

PS: G2... this is a PERFECT example of volition... IE: WHAT programming exists that tells us to stand up and start exercising? There is NO external stimulus that tells us, programmatically: "I MUST exercise". Or to NOT exercise... even if we are "thinking" maybe we should? That is PURE volition.

Do you have a "soul"? Do you have a "mind" or a "self"? If you have a "mind", SEPARATE from your brain... how does your "mind" tell your brain and body to do things? Like stand up, and start exercising, for example? This is what G2 is struggling to understand; why he is searching for an interface between "mind" and brain... which does not exist. If your "soul" is separate from your body, then how are you going to get it to ascend to "Valhalla", to join your Favorite God/ Creator... (Odin, of course)? These are the questions (not on "soul", but on "mind", which the two are somewhat related...) that G2 is asking. And like a good atheist, I know that there is no floating entity, separate from our bodies, called "soul" or "mind" or "self". It is all biochemical processes. G2 is having difficulty understanding how we can be a gag of bones, errr, biochemical processes, and not just function like a programmed machine. I'm trying to explain it to him... But I don't think he sees it yet...

NO I didn't. I gave you a SPECIFIC example of volition. Instinct: Hunger. VOLITION: DON'T eat right now, DESPITE hunger signals. WAIT, for an hour, or two, or whenever I DECIDE that I want to eat, despite hunger pangs. Finish the project I am working on. And THEN go eat. That's volition. If it was programming, at the signal of hunger I go eat. Period. Because I am programmed to do so. To DELAY eating, to a time of my own choosing, is NOT programming. Did you miss that? I know I was too wordy above... Another example. There is NO programming that told me that I MUST go out and buy a gallon of milk and a case of Dr. Pepper. Or to purchase a case of Cherry Pepsi INSTEAD of Dr. Pepper. But I did that, of my own VOLITION. NOT TRUE.

They're still a good team. With weaknesses of course... But I'm going to start calling them the Kardiac Kitties instead of the Lions...

Ah, OK... so you're speaking to interface, SPECIFICALLY. So let's concentrate on that. But also: No, this is too limiting to what I have described. Self-identity, yes, but I gave much more than that... I gave an actual set of instructions as an example, couched in language skills, from my "self" to my motor functions, using biochemical processes. But... if you are asking specifically about the interface... then I was sort of "beating around the bush" and not speaking specifically to that interface. I think I described the overall process of making conscious decisions that direct my motor functions through biochemical processes, but not... The Interface!!! (Coming soon to a theater near you...!!!) So... this goes back to the very definition of "self", which I will dispute and put in biochemical terms. I believe that... most people, believe that they have a "soul", or a "mind", or a "self" that is somehow separate from their biochemical processes. And that this separate entity (self/ mind/ soul, whatever you wish to call it)... is "Accepted" in all of society. In almost all definitions. I dispute that (as a good atheist would...) 😉 So... My "mind", is a biochemical historical record of all my memories, all of my learned language skills, etc. There are different regions of the brain for these, which, if you've studied brain chemistry then you know this. There are also audio and visual regions, and also "motor" function areas, with further breakdowns to voluntary (motor movements like arms & legs) versus involuntary (lungs and heart muscles are not controllable... although I can hold my breath, under water, for a minute or two...). 😉 One other thing related: I'm sure you're aware of different memory/ brain tests in which a subject is given visual stimuli such as pictures of: A cat, a hospital, a car crash, etc...? And the resultant regions of the brain that spring to life with these stimuli? The visual "pattern" that stimulates specific neuron patterns in your brain is memorized. Different experiences per person, different stimuli, different neuron patterns. Each person is different and unique (has a unique "mind", or persona if you will) based on the above. So... I'm stating that a person's "mind" is also biochemical. It is not a separate entity from the biochemical processes of the brain, it IS the biochemical processes of the brain. The memories. The neural patterns from stimuli. The language(s) learned by the individual. As well as the instinctual things like hunger. Now, as for the interface... There is no interface. It appears to me (tell me if I'm wrong) that you are still trying to connect a separated "mind" TO the biochemical processes of the brain. But... if my "mind" is simply biochemical neural patterns, no one will be able "tie" a decision I make to any specific location within my brain that could be defined as "mind" or "Interface". To whit: Instinct: Hunger. Location: Hypothalamus. Controllable by "mind" or "directed biochemical processes" (DBP)? No. Decision: Wait an hour, even though Hunger Instinct says "Eat NOW!", because I want to finish the project I am working on. Controllable by "mind" or DPB? Yes. Action. DON'T stand up from my office chair and make that omelette from leftover Thanksgiving "stuff" that I've been thinking about making (and sounds REALLY good about now, and I'm starting to get really hungry!!!) Where are you going to find that in my "mind"? In some Interface? The neural activity in my brain NEVER stops, it is always reacting to every stimuli I am currently subjected to (Lions game in the background, Hunger Instinct demanding action, memories of prior omelettes I've made and, current available omelette ingredients, and finishing my project of eBay baseball cards I want to bid on tonight). And all I did was "decide" to NOT stand up, but to wait instead. How are you going to find an "Interface" amongst all that activity. Neurons firing everywhere and you want to identify the specific neurons that said to my motor functions; "WAIT". AND... the neural patterns firing for me for this specific stimuli and command instruction are DIFFERENT for EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING on this planet. Your "Interface" is simply one set of firing neurons in my brain, amongst many thousands, sending instructions to my lazy ass to NOT STAND UP. Your search for an Interface is IMPOSSIBLE in other words. You are chasing a needle in 8 billion haystacks, and that needle changes shape and appearance in EACH and EVERY single one of those 8 billion haystacks. And you are searching for an Interface that meets your definition of a separate "Mind" that has an "Interface" connection to our "Biochemical" brain. I am saying that there is no such thing. There is no interface because our "mind" IS the biochemical processes/ memory patterns of our brain and therefore does not NEED an interface. Just my, ummmm... 2 cents.

At face value, yes. But I made a point earlier in the off-season, and I will repeat it here: I am under the belief that the marketplace, the "Demand" for starting pitchers, this offseason, might distort the value of someone like Mize or Manning. If the stress of building a rotation pushes another team to take chances, it could, "demand-wise", push the trade value higher than what we normally think it would be. They are still young, controllable, have "live" arms, and some organization out there believes they can "maximize" value out of one of these guys. If they offer an overpay (in terms of minor league prospects) due to the Demand Marketplace getting out-of-whack, then maybe there is an opportunity to take advantage. If I am wrong on the level of demand... then there won't be any out-of-whack offers, and then yes, I agree it'd be selling low on Manning (and even Mize). But we'll soon see how crazy, or not, the trading season gets, with the Winter Meetings starting up this week.

Assassin's Creed with Michael Fassbender and Marion Cotillard... Exactly. There is even a critical point of relationship between 1522 and 2022 in that, as a Sin-Eater, you MUST be PAID for eating someone else's sins. And of course Munch's current major point of contention with the Tillman's is that they have NOT paid him.... "YOU OWE ME".

Wait... This IS a message board... Is it not?

Additional rhetorical question: Why is "god" allowed to have no beginning, or no end, but the Universe is NOT ALLOWED to have no beginning and end? Why can the universe not have no beginning or end, and instead "must" be created by "something"?

HUMAN (sorry about the all-CAP's again...) but it's actually in what you QUOTED (haha!) from me... "Human teleology" ... Is self-defined. Your DNA may no longer have any purpose... But YOU get to define the purpose of your own life in any manner that you so choose. If you looked at my earlier post of self-definition (a response to Lee on the "meaning of life") I gave several possible examples of self-definitions of meaning, or purpose, ... but any definition will do. "Create" your own, my friend. One last question: Wanna join Space-X and be the first pioneer to Mars? That has purpose...!

Well... we definitely are all morans.

Uncontrollable chaos agents.