RandyMarsh

This may sound crazy but with how Glenn likes to play man defense the loss of Davis may hurt more than the loss of Hutchinson even though Hutch obviously is the better player in a vacuum. Glenn is so reliant on having corners that can play on an island and while not being prime Darrell Revis Davis was good enough to hold his own, same with Arnold as of late.

The Lions defense is going to have to rely on creating turnovers or hope the opponent makes mistakes(bad throws, penalties etc.) cause it simply doesn't have the horses to stop teams without help. If neither happen they are going to get carved up just like we saw today and in the 2nd half against GB.

Rapoport says that Davis' injury is a "jaw injury". Assuming it's a broken jaw I think that takes up to 2 months or more to heal, don't know if you can play through it though before it's full healed.

Yep, yeah the offense scored 42 but they didn't have many if any real long clock killing drives which is what they really needed and that was because Buffalo stopped the run game from the start causing the Lions to have to play from behind and rely on big passing plays and quick drives.

The defense has obviously been atrocious but the Bills offense has been a well oiled machine of late so while disappointed in the performance I'm not as disappointed as I am with the offense. The O line has been pushed around all day and really if not for Gibbs creating something out of nothing a couple times and a couple trick plays they may be shutout right now.

Just an atrocious game all around, I'm gonna try not to overreact since it's only 1 game and Buffalo is an elite team so I'm just gonna say lets hope this is just an anomaly.

Finally get a stop but of course it comes at the expense of our best remaining defensive player getting injured and then the Bills executing a perfect punt.

The O line has not looked good at all this game, getting pushed back on every play and creating no holes in the run game.

Yep, I think ironically the only time they had a rushing "stop" was the play Buffalo got called for holding on. Everything else has either been 4+ yards or a first down/TD for them.

Just atrocious defense today on all fronts. Some of it you can credit Allen and Buffalo for but alot of it is just poor execution or play design on our part.

Buffalo with 325 yards of offense that first half to our 190, definitely fortunate to only be down 1 score.

Disappointed not to get points on that last drive but honestly it feels like we should be down by more than 7.

We pivoted to Baez after SF signed him but before the news came out about his failed physical. If we waited on Baez a little longer we very likely could've gotten Correa on the cheap like the TWins did.

If I was Buffalo I'd go for it, even if you don't get it the Lions may get conservative and very likely not gonna drive it down for a TD. So you may end up at a net 3 loss in points, kicking a FG and the Lions coming down and scoring is a net 4 loss.

Agreed that they should've called a timeout before the 2 minute warning.

Stupid penalty, didn't end up meaning much cause of the completion but just uncalled for and unnecessary.

You know Josh Allen is gonna get his but its frustrating to see them gain 5+ yards on first down runs every time.

Not an ideal start to say the least.

I don't think anybody meant that they would just accept a loss atleast I never meant to imply that, I meant that IF we had to lose a game the rest of the way this one would be the least damaging for our division and number 1 seed hopes. A win is obviously the goal and more preferable though but that should go without saying.

I'm fine with trading Skubal at some point cause I do feel that it is highly unlikely he doesn't go to FA and in such a case it would be hard to outbid other teams for his services. With that said I wouldn't do it now, yes we MAY get a little more but I'd rather wait to see where we stand at the deadline and reassess then. I say may because the most valuable thing about starting pitchers is what they bring in the postseason so whether a team trades for him now or in July either way they are getting 2 postseasons out of him so I wouldn't consider the return being much different, in fact it may be even more if Skubal continues to dominate for another half season. If come July we show that last year was a fluke and are back to being a sub .500 team and way out of the division then shop him around but if that isn't the case and we are right in the thick of things then you of course keep him and try to make another run in the postseason. I guess the one caveat would be if we legit thought that the players we get in return could help us equally or more than Skubal would this year but I think that would be pretty unlikely.

Not saying this player is Koufax but I will never get the lack of love Johan Santana got, dropped off the ballot his first try despite being the best pitcher in baseball for like 6 or 7 years. Had a 5 yr stretch where he led pitchers in WAR 3 times, won 2 Cys(2 3rds and a 5th place finish) and averaged nearly 7 WAR a season. Yes his career was relatively short but boy his prime was among the best in recent history for pitchers.

Lol was gonna say something like "or a brick wall would run through him..see Albert Belle"

I feel like defenses have already adjusted a bit on 2nd and 3rd downs atleast going by memory and "feelings". Like it feels like we aren't getting as many easy first down runs on 2nd and 3rd and long as we did before. Seems like teams realize that 2nd and 10+ and say 3rd and 6/7 could still be running downs for the Lions and have adjusted, unfortunately for them the Lions are so good offensively it still isn't easy to stop.

I wonder if the White Sox had a choice between Mayer and Teel as the headliner and they chose Teel since they have Colson Montgomery? Considering how far away they likely are they wouldn't do that if they clearly had Mayer higher but if they felt they were essentially the same player Teel being a catcher vs. a SS may have been a deciding factor.

Agreed, to him it's not about creating a singular season but building a foundation and team that is set up for great seasons for the foreseeable future. Brad Holmes of the Lions is building this same way, they want to have sustained success and aren't going to risk that for a chance at a great season.