RandyMarsh

I really like what the Chiefs did considering where they were picking. I prefer the fact that the Lions got two studs but considering the Chiefs didn't have the luxury of picking 2nd I think Id probably give them a higher grade than the Lions.

Lamar being a run first qb is definitely a legit concern but I do think that he is a good enough passer that he won't go full Cam Newton once he can't run and I also think his athleticism is so much higher than any non Vick qb we have ever seen that if/ when he starts to lose something he still will be so ahead of everybody that else that he will still be a problem for teams with his legs.

Stafford didn't exactly look that good the last couple years he played, that may have been due to injury but still from an outsider's perspective he was playing like a fringe upper half qb that was getting older all the while seemingly getting banged up more. Hypothetically if he would have played 2020 like he did for the Rams in 2021(throw out the team success just talking personal standpoint) I think we probably couldve gotten 3 firsts for him but in typical Lions fashion he had to have one of his poorer seasons the year he asked to be traded so we couldn't get as much as we might otherwise have gotten.

Depending on how we look next year would determine if Id be willing to give up a ton for somebody like Jackson. If we do indeed play near .500 and it appears that we'd be a qb away from being not just legit playoff contenders but possible SB contenders then Id gladly trade our two firsts next year and another one for Jackson.(assuming he is playing at a high level)

Right now it does appear that we may be copying the Denver blueprint. They got playmakers on both sides of the ball so they had moderate success even without a qb but the veteran qbs took notice of that and zeroed in on playing there. If we go say 8-9 or 9-8 next year with only average play from Goff perhaps a good veteran will zero in on us to want to play for.

Yeah personally Id rather win and have the young guys show growth and promise but if we do underperform it would be nice to walk away with a CJ Stroud instead of a Jeff Okudah or even a Hutchinson.

Btw PFF put out their 2023 mock and they have us taking CJ Stroud at 4, yeah it would suck to have to endure another terrible season but if I knew Stroud would be at the end of the rainbow Id deal with it.

I have to give it an A at this point and the reason is simple, the Lions arguably got the best defensive player and best non tackle offensive player in the entire draft. Getting two playmakers like that is worth an A on its own in my book. Fans and the media love to glorify trading down and picking up extra picks and while that can be nice the reality is the vast majority of the time those picks end up producing average starters AT BEST. You can find average starters in FA or even the waiver wire in some cases but what you can't find are true game changers and the Lions potentially got two of them, one on each side of the ball, and if that wasn't good enough they were both a huge position of need. To me that is worth an A regardless of how the rest of the draft turns out.

Grossman hit on the hand, looks like he is staying in the game for now but surely after he runs the bases we will find out that he has been taken out of the game and has a broken hand cause that's just the type of luck the TIgers organization has had with hit by pitches.

If you want to put any stock into some of the pre draft concerns about Thibs caring more about his "brand" than football and all the similar knocks on him then you can't jump to any conclusions if he comes out of the gates looking better than Hutch like I'm sure many people will. I for one wasn't necessarily scared of those concerns or put much stock into them but if they turn out to be legit concerns you won't find out in the first half of or even full season he plays, you'll see them more down the road after he has had some success and started to make a name for himself in the NFL. So just something to keep in mind before you blast Holmes and Co. for passing on him if he does indeed put up a better start than Hutchinson.

Even though we're not a whole lot better than where we were at last year in terms of record I think we are playing a lot better than this point last year, basically outside of some dumb errors are main problem has just been the cold bats. The bullpen has been one of the best in baseball in terms of run prevention and the rotation has been solid enough considering E-Rod hasn't been that good and essentially no Mize. Last year at this time all facets of the team was terrible

Quite the offensive explosion for the Tigers bats, first time in awhile they were above league average for runs in a game, of course it was done with no home runs but I suppose this is still a step in the right direction.

Not sure if mentioned yet but as we know the Lions and Jets were the two teams to make an offer for Samuel, while I haven't seen anything online about what the Lions offer was the Jets supposedly offered the 10th overall pick and a 5th rounder for Samuel AND the 49ers 2nd. 49ers GM John Lynch said both offers weren't "even in the same ballpark" of what they would be looking for if they were to trade him.

Just turning on the game, has Shep made the Stafford/Kershaw backstory yet?

Not Lions related but was reading Kiper's write up about Day 2 and his winner's and losers and it just baffles me how people in his position can be so dense. He named the Seahawks in the loser category cause they passed on Willis twice and paraphrased it with something like "I don't get it, do they think that Drew Lock or Geno Smith are going to play even close to above average football this season?" First off, who cares how either of those two perform this year, it's not like they are trying to win. Secondly if you do care how the qb performs this year you wouldn't take Willis since he certainly isn't ready to take over anyway and finally you don't take a player that you don't like or think is flawed just cause they may be better than what you have right now. I swear you'd think for somebody's who's entire job is draft related that they would realize that they have these things every year so you don't have to address a need right now and that you are indeed allowed to play a season with subpar QBs when you're planning on rebuilding anyway. Sorry for the rant, not trying to specifically pick on Kiper its just takes like this are a pet peeve of mind and I see it all the time from folks. Yeah if you are serious about contending and pass on a clear need I can maybe see getting frustrated but when you are planning to compete say 2 or 3 years down the road the goal is to just gobble up as much talent as possible and worry about need later.

Well according to PFF the Lions thus far have gotten the 1st, 9th, 43rd and 73rd ranked prospects out of their 4 picks. Not too shabby!

Scouts inc. has him with a grade of 85 and the 7th best pass rusher (51st overall)so not a huge reach according to them. May seem like overkill going with another pass rusher but you can never have enough of them.

So glad to see Ojabo not only get drafted here but go to a place like Baltimore who hopefully will maximize his abilities.

Of course the bears get the guy I wanted most this round.

Btw what if Jameson responded with "uh not really" when Holmes asked him if he was ready to be a Lion? Im partially joking but for real if that were to happen I wonder if there was a plan b or if they could just cancel the trade?

Probably already posted but first time Im seeing it, not quite as excited as they were for Sewell.

You need playmakers/gamechangers in this league whether that be offense or defense doesn't matter but to win that's what you need and the Lions got arguably the biggest one on each side of the ball last night. This archaic view of building a balanced team with good players at all positions is just that archaic. In today's NFL you need guys that can get to the passer and/or create turnovers on defense and can get open and stretch the field on offense and the Lions did just that yesterday.

Outside of a quarterback which by all accounts there weren't any worth taking early I cant think of a position the Lions needed more than a speedy playmaker that can line up on the outside and stretch the defense. Not having that guy last year hurt the team more than just about anything else.

Was listening to Valenti earlier and it's bad when he has to be the voice of reseason. Resident Lions hater Rico Beard thought it was a stupid move cause the Lions don't have a qb to give him the ball(yet he loved Miami getting Hill when Tua makes Goff look like Mahomes in terms of willingness to throw down the field.) Valenti correctly pointed out that yes you are indeed allowed to collect weapons before getting your qb and that this addition makes Detroit one of the more attractive destinations for either a qb you draft to walk into or any potential veterans that want to be traded.