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Isn't about all we do know from what happened is that the perimeter was the biggest issue? Correct, and if the Tigers did not provide due diligence they would lose. But what if a friend gets you tickets into the GM suite and you get shot. Does GM owe you a responsibility of being safe in their suite or is that the Tigers job? This is somewhat similar I guess, in that the USSS works with local law enforcement as well. In my purview, I would assume USSS is the authoritative voice though. Not going to lie, I would like to know the details of this event and if the USSS bowed down to Trump demands, while that doesn't necessarily shift the blame IMO, it would add some additional blame towards Trump.

Maybe i'm wrong, but I would think USSS would still be authoritative on the overall security and if they felt they couldn't secure an outdoor location, they should not allow an outdoor location. And between me and you, deep down you know, if Trump or his campaign told the USSS they were doing outdoor events explicitly against the USSS wishes, that info would have been leaked like a sieve.

sorry, haven't been around much, but what have I missed about this? Why would Trump be liable? Isn't SS in charge of security for this? Also, I thought the SS was being tight lipped and not saying anything on this?

Shelby definitely would be redder than lower Macomb, but I would consider it more traditional GOP red, like it's Oakland county counterparts it borders up to, than the more MAGA rural north / northeast Macomb county. I keep hearing college educated are breaking towards Harris at a higher rate, my guess is northwest Macomb would probably have your highest percentage of college educated for the county.

Painting a broad brush again, but in terms of what we're seeing with national polls, I'd venture Harris is getting a lot of support out of Shelby (college educated) right now. I'm over on the Northeast portion of Macomb, near St. Clair county. Definitely more red out here than lower Macomb, I still haven't been invited to a local Klan or Nazi meeting yet though. I wouldn't want to go, but now I don't feel like a part of my community either. I'm going to tell my neighbors I should at least get an invite to the next one. I did have a chocolate lab when I moved in, they probably just saw us as a mixed family and thus why I'm not included.

That's painting a broad brush. Early labor movements had deep seeded communist ties. Unions continue to exist with your most famous actors/actresses being a part of them. Outside of a few elite actors guild members like that guy that was in that 80's sitcom....think his name is Chachi or something, they all support democrats. Hence, democrats = communist.

I don't remember it from living here since 2003. I'm not saying there aren't folks that would be upset if a black family moved in next to them, but I just don't see Macomb as a bastion of hate. I'm also not seeing as many Trump signs and most of the Macomb women I know that talk politics are voting Harris, a few of them were previous Trump voters too. Based on what I see out of the 'cult', those that don't talk about politics much, probably aren't your typical MAGA cult folks either.

I mean, if the Biden admin didn't push him and convince him to censor a certain group of people and thoughts, maybe this never happens. Granted, that doesn't excuse Zuckerberg, but this reminds me a spouse being more upset at the person sleeping with their wife/husband than their wife/husband.

Tim is pissed that those that have been so critical haven't been vocal lately. I personally wanted to see Bush, Christie, Esper, Kelly, McMaster, etc, even if they didn't have a speaking role, come out and wave to the crowd at the DNC. But I also need to remember the democrats want to use that convention to solidify their base just as much as to invite those on the fence in. There is still a lot of time left, so maybe we'll still see them and maybe there is more coordination in how to use them than Miller is aware.

Republicans acting like Democrats, truly a weird world we live in now.

It's not even just that, it's simply following Trump's lead. Don't debate substance, just make up names and hope one of them catches on. Politics isn't always about substance, but it was at least it was rooted in it. That's no longer the case (for the GOP at least), it's not about who has the better ideas plus a better way of communicating them, it's simply about trying to win the PR campaign. Also the definition of 'winning' is slanted too. Heck, don't even worry about putting an electable person up for a seat, if they are good at the PR portion and get on their knees for Trump, that's all the winning they care about. Go out and lose that seat, doesn't matter, at least that person bowed to Trump.

From Reddit so I apologize for the language (name of subreddit). I truly would love to have lunch with Cavuto just to listen to him talk about his experience at FoxNews. He was like this back when I would occasionally watch Fox, glad to see he's still like this.

You'd think it would be tough to get Biden there without the media knowing, but.... if there is still a surprise, you'd have some good odds with this one.

It's not over yet, Bush, Kinzinger, both Cheney's, John Kelly, Pence, Bolton, Esper and more will come out and waive after being referred to by Kamala. Seriously though, even PBS reporters on the side of the stage made it sound like she knew but was not stating it for ethical reasons. Makes me wonder if it was just to get ratings and make people see a sane person speak.

I want to live in a world where Kinzinger isn't welcome to the DNC and cheered at the RNC. Maya Harris was solid, now let's have Taylor Swift and Beyonce walk out hand in hand and introduce Kamala.

Possibly, but look at Trump's campaign, it's not about inspiring, it's not about ideas, it's simply about trying to be the victim and constantly looking for an 'own you' type zinger they can post to twitter. I feel like not picking Shapiro gave them the idea that they could claim it was proof Dems are afraid of the pro-Palestinian base. If Walz was a more likely candidate prior and wasn't picked, I could see them posing some of the same complaints they have about Walz and the riots and say it's proof they aren't serious about law and order. Doesn't matter what happens, MAGA always finds a way to blame others.

Argh...Hillary is so hard to listen to right now. <angel on left shoulder> Nope, not going to compliment her.... can't do it... must not do it... it's Hillary... think of everything you hated about the Clintons... <angel on the right shoulder> but damn she's kill.... <left> don't do that, what about nepo baby Chelsea and the "Clinton foundation"? <right> But are you seeing this? <left> **** :exhales: this is good.

Well, so was he is confusing the Purple Heart with the Medal of Honor as you can definitely get the Medal of Honor without being wounded or killed (although that is common too). The fact that a former POTUS and a guy that claims he should be POTUS doesn't even know the difference between the Purple Heart and Medal of Honor is abhorrent alone. The next thing is why are you even comparing the two? That said, I'm not going to lie, while I would be so proud to be a Medal of Honor recipient, I'd probably pass it up for Medal of Freedom if the sole reason for it was that I was so stupid rich that just by donating a fraction of it someone felt I deserved it.

Haven't heard that name in quite awhile. I'll have to check it out.

She knows more about politics than most of her colleagues, aka she raises more money then most of them. Now if she could get good at governance along with politics, that would be great.

Generally the incumbent has the edge. Putting Biden out there helps solidify Harris as the 'incumbent' giving her that advantage, then she can still run as herself giving the newish/youngish feel that the vast majority of the country has been craving for.

I'll happily take not as good over Trump.

Harris’s VP will be [better than Vance], because [Vance is weird].

My only point with Trump being able to do it is that the democrats could play him to get what they want and at the same time, republicans are too afraid of him to go against him. Republicans praising Obama wouldn't have done crap because 1) praising Obama wouldn't have gotten him to agree to republican ideas and even if it did, 2) democrats wouldn't have voted for it. I could see it though back in his first term, Pelosi speaking "President Trump, so this is off the record right? Ok, so you know I just have a D next to me so I can win in California, but really I'm here like everyone else just to make a buck and right now, the CEO's at the largest tech companies in my district say they would employ more folks if it wasn't for health care costs. We need to move this burden away from corporations, it's just not fair to them and if we go through with this, every CEO will praise you for it. The press on it will be astounding. So we have this report from an economist...." "So no more" interjects Trump "I don't need the details, you're right, it's unfair to burden our corporations with this, send me the bill and let me know who gets in your way. They'll face the biggest primary of their life, it will be so big, just the biggest."

Because for the true MAGA's, it's a cult. You'll never convince me different, but I still think if Pelosi and Schumer did nothing but claim Trump was the smartest, brightest, most amazing man/president they had ever met and got all democrats to go along with it, we'd have universal health care, would have had a bigger infrastructure package than we got with Biden, would have had established a path to permanent legal status, etc.