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I apologize that you don't understand context.

You posted a screenshot. The screen shot you posted gives the name of the podcast. I have a hunch, if you look up that podcast and see when she was a guest, it would give you the release date of the podcast. Additionally, 'articles abound' point out that Mulvaney posted to her Instragram about Bud Light. In today's world, I just feel like there might be a way to identify a date with each of those.

Legit points, but still, I wouldn't think that would keep the average guy that wants to share some stupid bud light meme on Twitter from sharing something equally stupid on Target. I've spent years trying to get a diverse group of folks on my twitter account and add in the fact that per all of you, the second Musk took over it became inundated with racists, homophobic tropes, I feel like I would have still seen outrage at Target, even if their sales weren't affected due to the points you made.

This is why I know you're nothing but a troll.

Target didn't cater, in some stores they apparently moved some stuff. They came out quick to point out they support pride month and noted it's a lie they carry binding swimsuits. My Chesterfield Target never moved theirs.

If they didn't send the beer to Mulvaney, 100-200 people that are interested in a podcast about work/home balance hear your interview. I'm not arguing that no backlash existed. I'm not arguing that the initial backlash was not stupid. I do still feel that clips from that interview, combined with how Bud Light handled the response, helped drive us to the point where we're nearly 4 months in and they are still dealing with large fallout.

You get proven wrong and come at me like i'm the problem. It's not black and white, as the articles that you noted, most people heard the clips of the interview after and thought it was a response to the initial Mulvaney post/backlash. Did some people need those clips to continue their outrage...nope, but IMO, as a whole, it fueled it more. That's my opinion, you don't have to agree. Target got lumped into this and their response was different. Maybe they are still dealing with it, but unlike Bud Light sales, i'm not hearing anything about it. Something appears to be different.

cnn.com Make Yourself At Home - Podcast - March 23, 2023.

The interview happened before the backlash started, it went viral after. I'm not going to argue exact timelines as it's not black and white. Some backlash had started, IMO though, when her interview comes out (virally) and it takes Bud light another few weeks to just come out with a generic "we didn't mean to be part of the divide", it helped ensure the backlash persisted and intensified.

I didn't really see the major backlash until that interview started to go viral. IDK, maybe i'm just a ****ty human being myself. I do laugh at Dave Chappelle, so obviously i'm as transphobic as they come so I probably should have added that for full disclosure. I'm not a marketing major, but i'd think if you've created the best selling beer in America with stupid but fun humor and even as craft beer took down your share, you still outperformed all other beers, maybe you don't say you need to change your ways as that marketing doesn't allow you to be inclusive. Maybe something like, we want to remain true to our core, while inviting others in to enjoy our style of humor as well. Doesn't seem so hard, but who knows.

The marketing VP was interviewed before it completely blew up and she talked about how the brand is dying and she used every left wing buzzword to talk about how they needed to be inclusive to expand the businesses. She mentioned Bud Light was 'fratty' and had out of touch humor and they needed to get beyond that. When that interview went viral, instead of trying to clarify or anything, they just buried their head in the sand hoping everything would pass, it allowed that message to be amplified. It's one thing to hold your own customers in contempt and think they are ****ty people, probably not a good idea to openly speak about it though. For full disclosuer, while I don't like Bud Light beer, I am one of those ****ty people that usually got a chuckle out of Bud Light commercials.

I'm so conservative I'm still in the days of separation of church and state, that religious right segment has certainly enjoyed to 'cancel' things.

I'm so conservative that I'm still stuck in conservative views from years past where 'cancel culture' sucks. That said, I do feel like this bud light one is a bit different. It's one thing not to like a direction a company takes, but when the only communication you get out of the company is that it's core consumer is ****ty, I don't understand how they are surprised about losing so many. To take this on a product point and not a political point, I'll point to GM. They are planning on moving forward without ApplePlay and the Android equivalent. They are gambling their replacement will win over consumers. At least GM didn't claim their replacement will be so much better because Apple and Android users are sheep that are content with whatever crap is shoveled to them.

I remember grandiose thoughts during the Arab Spring as well.

The end was a little surprising, and awesome!

I'm certainly hoping we never find out, my point stands though, he was much more hawkish towards Russia than his rhetoric indicated. While I certainly won't argue your wrong, as I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, I also wouldn't be surprised if the rhetoric he provided differed from the administration that is doing what they think is best without him knowing/caring enough to change it.

This can help you lead up from Obama into the first year of Trump's presidency: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/dont-rehabilitate-obama-on-russia/ This outlines all of his actions against Russia, but not his talk: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/on-the-record-the-u-s-administrations-actions-on-russia/ He loves Putin as a man, he loves all dictators as that's what he wants to be. Still, end of the day, for a host of possible ****ty reasons (my #1 guess being that he just doesn't want to put the work into becoming a dictator) he allowed his folks to act hawkish towards Russia, despite what he said.

I heard an interview from Trump where he was forced to give specifics on just how he would end the war in 1 day. In a somewhat surprising (but maybe not so) twist, he says he'd call on Russia to take major concessions and if they refused, he would simply give Ukraine everything they wanted. I know everyone talked about him as Putin's puppet, but the administration was actually hawkish against Russia under him. I wonder if that kind of talk would have any effect on Russian decision makers.

Just learned from Twitter that Mario Lopez filmed a movie that had this as a background too. I did not peg him as a white nationalist, but there is no way he didn't know the history so it's a given.

Pointing out that you believe Aldean and his crew scoured the south, stopping in small towns and asking about the history of it. "Oh, you just sold slaves here in the town square.... that's not gruesome enough, back on the bus boys, we're off to the next town." Finally they learned about this lynching and immediately jumped up for joy, the whitest possible jumping high fives as they yee-haw'd, then unloading their gear because they finally got the perfect backdrop. And honestly, I know nothing of Aldean (well, almost nothing, wiki just informed me he's from GA), he might be the biggest racist out there and when he was growing up his daddy talked proudly of this lynching in TN which was so much better than any of the lynchings he grew up around and maybe that was the impotence which drove him to be a country music singer, just so he could someday have it as his backdrop. That actually does sound more likely now that I think about it.

“Too often, we judge other groups by their worst examples - while judging ourselves by our best intentions."

200 buildings in Minneapolis/St. Paul were involved in arson. Looking through the list, many are near the area Floyd was killed. But hey, my local Kroger, pharmacy, auto repair shop, banks, gas stations, bars, restaurants, and police stations get burned down regularly but my house is never touched, hence I continue to live here as my community is so great. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_arson_damage_during_the_George_Floyd_protests_in_Minneapolis–Saint_Paul

The outcome certainly indicates you have a valid argument. But legally, he did nothing wrong. The same as I get upset at the left for not recognizing legitimate concerns with crime, it's equally frustrating at the right not recognizing concerns with unregulated guns in this country.

I don't understand the need to ignore a point that doesn't fit a narrative. I'm not conflating anything. I, unlike the far right, am saying that the vast majority of BLM protests were indeed protests (and peaceful). There were some BLM riots, caused by pro-BLM folks, and again, I am aware there were instigators that were not pro-BLM that were involved in a portion of that already small portion that turned into riots, but your delusional if you think the only bad things that happen are because of folks that have different political beliefs as you. In that small portion that turned into riots, you're also right that you can segment that further into destroying a downtown community versus an area within a few blocks of where they live, which also happened in some circumstances. All that said, I don't see a difference between someone destroying a Target they normally go to, versus a Target someone else normally goes too.

The lynching occurred in the 1920's, but I just rewatched it with a focus on it like my high school English teacher asked us to do when we read the scarlet letter and look for the symbolism. Opens up with the courthouse and yeah, it looks like a southern courthouse so yeah, no doubt he knew the full history. :52 - Ford truck. Added to show Aldean's anti-semite views. Do you really think the Aldean doesn't know about Henry Ford's views? 1:56 Dodge police car. The Dodge brothers were some of the first to hire black people in the auto industry.....why, because they wanted to build their company on the back of black people and take all the credit, just like the rest of white america. 2:03 - Fireworks shot off towards police. An obvious dig at Asian Americans taking over this country. 2:40 - Farmers. Seriously, is there anything more racist than farmers? I hate farmers who go out there day in and day out and work their ass off, but deep down, you know they got their 40 acres and a mule. Smug pricks.