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And that's the problem, IMO. You can't take any criticism of anything your side may have done wrong, heck, questioning it is even out of bounds. You go out and present an aura of infallibility and if challenged, point to what you believe is the worst thing the other side has done to build that red herring.

I believe the FU politics is a symptom, not the cause. As a whole, both sides stopped looking for a discussion and compromise is now a bad word. Gingrich's 'win at all costs' mentality very well may have been the beginning point, but both sides are all in now. Add to that a media that doesn't have the time, patience, or financial incentive to investigate and all we have is talking points being shared. If anything, we might need more political comedy. Find a way to get everyone to relate to something and laugh at it. Good comedians don't only make us laugh, they make us think of things differently.

It's rare that I would say this to you, but I couldn't disagree more. I'm guessing you don't watch him and probably only see clips pulled out. He pushes discussion, the show isn't about making a quick laugh. Most of the show is a discussion between him and a panel that even if it's a congressman/women, you get more information on their ideas in one show than you would watching a years worth of Sunday morning news shows. He's never 'shifted gears' either. As for all people, i'm sure his views are not the same as they were 20 years ago, but he's always been a progressive democrat. He's currently suffering from the same fate as let's say Cheney and Kinzinger. Cheney and Kinzinger are darlings of the left. But if you're a democrat based on platform policy, you wouldn't really cheer them on. They have one issue they disagree with the GOP on (granted a big one) and their side has turned on them and the left cheers. Maher, for the folks that don't regularly follow him, is the same. Grab an average person that has never watched the show and pick a random show he's done in the last 20 years and they will know he votes straight ticket democratic. But, if he feels the dems are heading a wrong direction, he calls it out. The right pulls the 30 second clip to celebrate him, the left grabs that same clip to say he's no longer a legitimate voice for the left.

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Absolutely, but he occasionally complains about Democrats, so he's not relevant and wrong. (/sarcasm)

Always listen to the experts and ridicule those that don't, unless you choose not to listen to experts, in that case, just ignore or deflect it (ie., it's just a prediction). Last year I pointed out migrant crossings were on pace to break all time highs and you deflected saying that was speculation (it wasn't, they were on pace to break all time highs, they simply hadn't yet....at the time). Turns out, the "speculation" was right.

I know some of you folks hate Bill Maher, being all left of center and taking objective looks at things like he does, but per usual, he was pretty spot on tonight.

This guy suffers horribly from the 'but Trump' virus. The only time Trump 'got away' with a gaffe was when the next one he made 'trumped' the first one. He was mocked relentlessly, and rightly so.

Stealing from a tweet I saw in regards to what if that was Chappelle and not Rock, I think both outcomes would have been similar, we would have seen an impromptu 1 hour special by either of them that consisted of Jada jokes, with a sprinkle of Will Smith cuck jokes. I think we were really close to hearing one from Rock but he chose to back off.

The 'return to Mexico' policy was the one that the Dems labeled as a horribly mean policy by Trump and that was stopped. The overflow of illegals forced them to try and deal with the fallout of stopping it, so they began using Title 42 more and restricting altogether based on if the countries had high rates of Covid. Biden quietly reinstituted the 'return to Mexico' policy though. So short answer, the GOP is wrong to say we're doing nothing and the Dems learned that just criticizing a policy and removing it without any plan was wrong as well.

I was caddying when I witnessed the only hole-in-one in my life, the worst golfer of the foursome was the one that got it. Took a crazy hop off of a hill next to the green and shot across the green and went right in.

Heads of State, such as Macron, expressed their disappointment with it as they felt it could hinder peace talks he was having with Putin. Here is the Biden walk back I mean, in re-reading what Biden said at the end of the speech, it's identical. Anyone disagreeing with that would be equivalent to my buddy texting me that Blashill should be fired.

From an earlier post of mine regarding this: Biden's admin has already handled it. As you say, it's already out there, can't put the genie back in the bottle, but I'm not pretending this is the end all / be all moment that potentially could start WWIII either.

I went back to review Biden's comment again and I apologize. I, stupidly, took this to mean Putin cannot remain in power. My incredible hatred for Biden forced my mind to insert 'regime change'. How stupid of me. I just reviewed the entire transcript of his speech, is 'this man' even Putin? He references Pope John Paul right towards the end, so maybe it was just a history lesson about how Pope John Paul was unable to remain in power (due to being dead). Plus, even if it is Putin, I can now see so many different things he could be saying. For 1), the end of his speech indicates the US will back democracies in eastern Europe with no limit. He very well could just be pointing out that we're willing to outlast Russia and we're prepared for a proxy war in Ukraine until Putin dies of natural causes. Putin is only 69, so I mean, potentially only a 15-20 year proxy war. Folks, seriously. It was not scripted, it was a mistake that even Biden's administration admitted. It was not part of some crazy strategic matter. No, you can't 'but Reagan' this pointing out 'evil empire', the relational strain was not near the level it is right now and Biden already matched Reagan earlier with his monster/butcher comments, this was an escalation of that rhetoric and I guarantee this was on Russian state TV, right with something Tucker said, to 'prove' the West really is after Russia. Your side can make a mistake without it being the end all/be all. It's not like you have to thrown away your Dem cards and vote for Trump in the next election just because you admit a mistake happened.

Wait, so with a straight face you're trying to tell me Biden may have purposefully said it, because he knew he'd get a great reaction from it and then had it planned for his administration to walk it back in regions that he knew where it would be a problem? And in that scenario, you're cool with it?

I did read it, and I don't think stating regime change when he's in a border country of Russia, or if he did it from the Oval office really makes any difference, nor does the audience. It should not have been publicly stated anywhere, to any audience, period. His own administration appears to agree with me.

Oh come on. Biden shouldn't have said it, to anyone. Period, end of story. Do I agree with it, yes, but as the head of state, it caused trouble. His own administration is walking it back which they would only do if Biden himself realized it was a mistake as well. Overall, is it a huge mistake, no, especially with how his admin is walking it back. But still, I feel like this spin from some that it's nothing is exactly what we all laughed at the Archie's/Stan's of the world where they would try and spin some Trump comment as some great strategic, well thought out plan. Biden made a mistake, it's not the end of the world. His own administration is admitting it was a mistake based on their actions afterwards. In the end, I just trust the folks Biden has assembled to be able to handle a speech gaffe and not allow it to modify policy. Within a day or two, it'll blow over.

Umm, Joe Biden did. What am I missing here?

I certainly hope that our governments goal is to do this, but again, it probably shouldn't be stated publicly unless you actually plan on ensuring that happens by any means necessary.

Intelligence information has been pretty solid so far, and they have been warning of these cyber attacks, so I don't have an issue with the media speculating on it. That said, i'm with you on this. As I was listening this morning, I felt like they weren't digging into the reasons why we haven't seen it, but rather just kept saying they are coming and wondering why we haven't seen them yet. It definitely could be Russia doesn't want to escalate it, or another thing I was thinking after reading a story about a 'brain drain' happening in Russia, with mostly younger, educated Russians fleeing the country or the younger generation being against this war, is there internal sabotage or other concerns that are keeping top level officials from pulling that trigger even if they would like to.

To be fair, we're not that far removed from a president that not only said things off of the cuff, but administrative policy would sometimes change based on his response. It's been ingrained into the media's heads that 'words matter' and that's not a bad thing. I do think it's different here as Biden has shown consistency with his policies, despite any off of the cuff remarks.

So in reviewing my post, I realize i made a mistake, while at the same time realizing that you, Pfife, read Archie's posts, while ignoring mine. That's hurtful. I wasn't backing Archie's completely fucked up thoughts on Biden's comments leading to WWIII, I was merely contradicting my initial post which stated Biden's comments were scripted and backing his initial statement which stated Biden's admin was backtracking Biden's comments as well.

This is my post claiming it was bold, as I thought it was scripted at the time. It still was bold regardless. I'm still not claiming one way or the other if it's wrong. Gehringer responding in a way that seems to match up with what I initially posted/stated. Archie, who I rarely agree with, saying they are walking back the comments and blaming it on senile because that's what his media tells him to believe. You claiming it's not happening. Me, simply pointing out that new reports actually are stating that it was off of the cuff. Going further, I added that I agreed with you that I really wasn't upset at Biden's comments, but noted there is a concern. and than you: I don't see where I mentioned war. So maybe if you took the time to read what I post, instead of ignoring it, as you've stated multiple times you do, you'd have an idea what I was talking about.

Actually, looks like that is exactly what is happening. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-biden-sparked-a-global-uproar-with-nine-ad-libbed-words-about-putin/ar-AAVxgGu?ocid=uxbndlbing I agree with what you said earlier, Putin doesn't deserve to be in power. That said, not everything in this world is just. We may need to try and improve relations with a Putin run Russia in the future, and that will be more difficult now. That said, i'm hoping for a solution that allows us for improved Russian relations without Putin.