buddha

you could be right, i dont know enough about hockey to know.

if you want that many rookies, you are looking at another tank. look at finnie, danielson, kasper, and asp this year. finnie started strong when he was playing with healthy larkin/raymond but fell off dramatically. every other rookie was bad to borderline unplayable. To the point jason makes, its possible that yzerman always saw this season as another bridge year. blood some rookies and they'll be ready for larger roles next season and the year after. i question whether that's true and the real reason the rookies havent been brought up is because theyre injured (mazur, buium) or not developing fast enough to make a difference now (danielson, asp), or blocked (cossa).

its not the system, the players just arent good enough.

the problem with a trade now is that you dealt away a lottery pick for justin faulk. so you dont have the first to trade anymore and i dont know how comfortable i am with dealing another first rounder unless youre getting a star back. we can rewind to hongbit's argument (and max bultman's argument) about quinn hughes. should he have given up edvinsson for hughes? i didnt think so at the time and i still have reservations about it. that said, they need 5x5 offense and hughes/seider would bring that. the problem is that i dont think it would be enough because the rest of the team would still suck. as weve seen. and more than that, the STARS of the team have sucked. THAT'S the real reason theyve tanked in march/april the last two seasons. larkin and raymond havent been good enough. and the other reason being yzerman hasnt signed enough good secondary players to help them. debrincat, yes. but debrincat fell into his lap. he could have re-signed gosthisbhere but didnt. he could have kept walman. traded for guentzel. done SOMETHING other than sign quite marginal players. they signed a 60 year old jvr to PLAY ON THE FIRST LINE! only finnie's early season hot streak bailed them out there. and finnie has been bad for most of the second half of the season.

you would have to attach assets to trade compher or rasmussen. copp might get you a pick, but copp can still play. i wouldnt want to trade copp for a low round draft pick. johannson might get you a 4th round pick or so. maybe a 3rd. what did maata get? that's what i would expect johannson to fetch. and what does that do for you? not much.

good that cade is back. no need to work him too hard in a game where the other team is actively trying to lose.

the last time michigan won a basketball national championship the pistons won the nba title...

hey look, were in last place.

i understand the argument jason is making and that potential timeline, but if that IS the timeline, i dont think theyre actually on it. seider is an all star. raymond is close. edvinsson has potential. but kasper? danielson? asp? cossa? are they on that kind of track? if not, its not going to matter when compher comes off the books if youre just replacing him with compher 2.0. and if that WAS the timeline, then why did they trade for perron a few years ago and aign gosthisbere? those guys were old then. then they let them go and tried to replace them and failed. i think yzerman is on a seider/raymond timeline, not a larkin timeline. but seider/raymond's clock has started and he didnt do anything this year to help move it along. the more worrying part is kasper and danielson (and they already complained about lack of 2nd round hits when you had 6 chances). those guys have to hit. they HAVE to. and they have looked like average players so far. if they are, this rebuild goes nowhere.

compher isnt coming off the books for another 2 years. so we continue to dabble around the margins until larkin is 31?

every goalie in grand rapids has been amazing. so do his numbers say cossa is amazing, or that grand rapids defense is amazing? i would love to see cossa in detroit. unless they trade him, he WILL be in detroit next year. it could be yzerman being too conservative, or it could be that - like danielson, and like asp - he's not ready or not that good.

sure. but he didnt pull it off. that's the point.

we all said the same thing about asp and danielson and they both kind of sucked at the nhl level. i'm down on stevie right now but i'm not sure bringing up the rookies would have made a positive difference this year.

we all said the same thing last summer and we signed mason appleton and JVR.

who are 5 guys who will never do **** in the nba.