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I mean I can see what the Wings were doing with Vrana, they traded Mantha and got Vrana and both first and second round picks. Vrana was younger and had a better goalscoring touch. The Capitals pretty much sat Mantha at the end of his deal so it isn't like we missed out on his production / lack of hustle (Mantha in 118 games with Washington: 58 points, Vrana in 42 games in Detroit had 32 points). The fact they got the first and second round picks still makes it a win to me even with Vrana's personal issues killing his place on the team. I am more than fine with the Wings trying these sort of things just sometimes they don't work out! I guess if you think they should have dug deeper into his personal issues before the trade + contract then I wouldn't argue against that maybe it was something they could have figured out. Man Vrana working out would have been such a boost to the rebuild, they need a pure goal scorer like that so badly.

I want to stress I do not blame anyone who is feeling impatient, we are fans and thrive on our team's success! I reaaaallllllllllllly hope we are a season or two away from real playoff contention.

It was a lot easier when there was no salary cap and other team's scouting deficiencies let you get guys like Lidstrom and Fedorov in the third and fourth rounds in the same draft. Then you have the contracts and everything Yzerman started with: Top 10 prospects from Bultmans end of 2018 ranking. Libor Sulak Joe Hicketts Vili Saarijarvi Gustav Lindstrom Evengy Svechnikov Jared McIssac Berggren Hronek Veleno Zadina More bad contracts than good, really no great prospects to speak of. I'm not sure that Seattle and Vegas are comparable since their gm's were able to completely decide what they wanted their team to be with very favorable protection rules, whereas Yzerman got what he was given. Seattle was even given the second overall pick to get Berniers as a cornerstone of their franchise, what has Yzerman had to work with? I myself am getting impatient but outside of some other GM being a miracle worker and getting really really lucky with trades and prospects I am not shocked that it is taking this long. I do scratch my head at some Yzerman moves but I am more than fine giving him more time to cook here.

Yes I rounded up from $2,666,666 to $3 million for my comment for only this season's savings on the hit, I didn't think it would be a sticking point for people! My idea was that saving that much this season (and having a small cap hit next season I guess) seems odd when they're still rebuilding, but if Yzerman wants to save that money or even just a roster spot for someone else I'm not going to be upset. Just surprised. Young, cost controlled player that has some success. But he has trended down since his rookie season so it isn't anything I'm going to rant against. He also is small with injury history. The Wings do seem like they're going to look to fill one or two forward roster spots after signing Kostin and Veleno but I guess they didn't think Yamamoto was a worthwhile placeholder for one season. I'll be very interested to see what they do with the money and roster spot now since I imagine they have something in mind.

Huh? He's young so he costs less than $500k against their cap this season and then a little over $500k next season? https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/redwings

It looks like it was a majority of his time with Shane Pinto which will definitely hurt his numbers. Playing two minutes less a night than he did in Chicago doesn't help either.

It sounds like Kostin is about to sign a two year deal. I've seen that Lindstrom is already looking for work in Europe.

It just seems odd to be scraping together ~$3 million in cap space for one season with where the Wings are at with their roster. If they were a contender the freed up space makes a lot of sense. Yamamoto has shown flashes, is only 24 years old, and was RFA after this contract. I'm not sure it would have hurt to see if he clicks with the roster and see if there's something there but just my feeling on it. I'm not upset just surprised.

Yamamoto only had one year left on his contract, I'm not sure why you buy him out unless you are looking to add a ton of salary via trades and free agency this offseason. Taking Yamamoto was necessary to get Kostin for nothing but I am curious why this was needed.

Wings are apparently buying out Yamamoto, kinda surprised.

I think you're remembering correctly, I am pretty sure Justin took mma or boxing lessons (or both?) to try to get to be a better fighter. I don't think it ever worked to be honest I don't remember him winning too many scraps. It looks like this kid is three inches taller than Abdelkader and played for the NTDP so I'm hoping he can be a useful player somehow.

The reply fight must have been when he got 30 minutes in one game, took his helmet off then absolutely fed some poor kid

It looked like he chirped the last guy after sending him flying, if they can develop this kid into a NHL player it'll be nice to have a mean bastard on the backend like that.

hopefully a guimond in the rough

I thought I read that arbitration could bring in less than the $9m qualifying offer for DeBrincat but it isn't very clear to me.

I would also love the Wings to get McDavid but that's probably just as likely. The Jets wanted roster players for PLD, not picks/prospects for a full rebuild. There's little chance they're giving up Connor right now on the contract he has.

What makes you think Connor is available?

Noah is supposed to be a lot better than his brother at least!

I think he towers over Cole Caufield's listed height of 5'7''!

Not optimal players but a nice way to utilize your cap space to get assets for nothing. Kostin certainly adds size.

Yamamoto and Kostin for future considerations

Nice to add some toughness if the kid can play too.

Just acquired two forwards from the Oilers for nothing 😂

Wow they got Yamamoto and Kostin (big dude!) for absolutely nothing (future considerations)