SeattleMike

I think the Carpenter is bad at defense stuff is overblown. Many defensive metrics rank him as decent. Yes, he's a had a few muffs at the wall, although today it was the sun more than anything.

Last month he has a 791 OPS, granted in only 34 PA.

112 wRC+ since May 1. BTW, both Greene and Carpenter in top 20 in MLB since then. I believe both were injured during the 9-game losing streak.

Greene with two hits, Carpenter with a HR, and Tork 3-3 with HR. A win would be gravy.

I agree on the pitching. They need to extend Erod or replace him with an equivalent talent and add another starting pitcher. The 2024 free agent class of pitchers is much better than position players and the Tigers payroll will be near the bottom of the league. No reason not to be aggressive in roster upgrades this offseason.

They have basically been a .500 team since starting 2-9 so playing .500 ball next year, with the right roster moves, seems within reach.

Yes I was emphasizing his youth by listing his age

He’s only 22 and has had some success at the plate in the minors. Considering he was acquired for cash not a bad flyer.

I was just about to post the same thing. Weird

And yet there were many on message boards and in the media (Lynn Henning) who complained that the Tigers had mortgaged their future with this trade. I guess the fear was that Miggy wouldn't sign a long term deal.

Wasn't that a Jim Leyland saying?

Every rotation needs a Porcello. Let's hope Manning can be at least as good as Porcello was.

Time to give him his shot. He’s 23 not 21. Been raking for 2 plus months. Is this decision being determined entirely by MLB housekeeping rules?

Who knows if Bigbie will pan out, but is this further evidence that the complete overhaul of the developmental staff is yielding positive results? Carpenter last year. Bigbie this year. Meadows huge strides. Perez to a lesser extent. Plenty of busts but that is the nature of the business. I just don’t remember over a two-year period so many guys in the Tigers system making significant strides. Probably just brings us to the middle of the pack in terms of development successes but that’s progress.

If that is how it plays out, a big if, that would be a very young starting lineup. Assuming Carpenter, Baez, Tork, and Rogers round out the starting 9 that is an average age of 25.6. More growing pains.

Thank god the mlb app allows you to switch to the radio feed. And this year it's synched up pretty well. Apple TV offers the same, which I discovered yesterday thanks to a tip on here. Too bad you guys in blackout zone don't have that option.

Thanks for heads up. Been listening to Dickerson on mlb app but difficult to synch.

Is LOB% skill or luck? The Tigers are top 10 in WHIP. Top 5 in walks, average in K/9, top half in hits allowed, average in HRs allowed. Every other team ranked in the top 10 in WHIP is among the league leaders in fewest runs allowed per game. By most metrics the Tigers defense is decent. In some really good, in others ok. The one metric where they really stink is in allowing men on base to score. They are 29th in LOB%. This says to me they been pretty unlucky.

One of the things I liked about Leyland. He always called BS on chemistry. I think the only real intangible he believed in was professionalism.

Yeah, there is more good pitching than hitting in this year's free agent class so replacing ERod with someone comparable or better is very doable.

Everyone remembers the Martinez trade, which was atrocious and haunted him the rest of his tenure. From that point on I'd say, in all fairness, that his deadline deals were ok. Verlander yielded a catcher who this season ranks in the top half of regulars at his position in RC+. Getting an impact player would have been better, but as others on this board have noted rarely do these deadline deals yield that kind of talent. The other 2017 trade netted two pretty good players for practically nothing. Avila and Wilson for Paredes and Candy. In 2019 he traded Castellanos and received Lange. Not bad, considering at the time of the trade Castellanos was slumping (95 OPS+ in July) and had a rep as a bad fielder (well earned). Later deadline trades: Greene for Wentz, who may still prove useful, Martin (with his 97 OPS+ at the time) for Castro, who, hey, is still in the league, Norris, badly damaged at the time, for Olson, who may prove more than useful, and Fulmer, for Long-Gibson, who is pitching well at AA. Yes, the Fiers trade in 2018 netted nothing, and I know I'm missing a few other clunkers. But considering the underwhelming assets Avila had to trade, I'd say he performed ok at the trade deadline, after the Martinez mess. He failed as a GM for many reasons, but trade deadline deals were the least of his problems and maybe weren't really a problem.

Maybe he was a part (a bit of a throw in) of the ill-fated Rodriguez deal?

No. Most of these guys are fighting to establish themselves in the league. Coasting will get you the boot. The issue is talent and ability. That’s lacking.

Same old story.

Or play more games in, say, Comiskey (or whatever it’s called these days).