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I care if he wasn't as great of a fielder or base runner. Those are parts of the game and they count in determining a player's overall value. People say that they don't care about fielding and base running and then they complain when the see fielders making bad plays or baserunning mistakes. I used WAR in this case because Kent and Whitaker were similar types of players playing the same position and about the same number of games and WAR does a good job of showing that Whitaker was a better overall player.

Olson got 4.5 runs of support per game. He also allowed just 2.4 ER per game in his losses. So, he seems to have been unlucky compared to Mize.

Them guys aint sharing nothing with you.

I'm a fan too. He might even be better than you.

Flaherty averaged 0.67 runs in in the games Tigers won Olson 1.17 I wouldn't have guessed it was quite that low across the board though, so it was an interesting observation on your part. The Tigers scored 4.5 runs in all of Skubal's starts and 6.0 in Mize's starts. Skubal never gave up more than 4 runs in any of the losses, so he likely would have won more games with more run support. ER allowed per game in Mize's losses 3.2. 2.0 in Skubal's losses.

Mize got trememdous run support in his games last year which contributed to his deceptive W/L. He was OK though. If he pitches the same this year, I'll be reasonably happy.

Kent was a worse choice than Jones. Jones was questionnable and I wouldn't put him in, but he is perhaps the best defensive outfielder ever - better defensive numbers than Mays. So, at least he's got that. Kent played the same position as Whitaker and was 20 wins behind him in WAR.

Park effects are not annual. They are averaged over 3-5 years. As for the innings. are you talking annual or career? Given how difficult it is for pitchers to pitch deep into games now, I believe innings have become more valuable now and should be rewarded more than ever for single seasons. For historic WAR, the value of the cumulative effect of WAR is questionable. It depends on whether you favor peak value or career value. If you like peak value more, then you can use WAA (Wins above average). In this case, a pitcher can not accumulate value unless he is better than average. I do agree WAR should not be gospel and that it is overused

That's because you're an offensive snob.

Both Iwakuma and Sale had better ERA+ and K/BB than Scherzer. Scherzer was surely penalized for playing in a pitcher friendly park.

It's OK. You are new, so I didn't recognize the sarcasm.

I don't get why the recent signings change whether or not they should trade Skubal. He was very unlikely to sign with them prior to free agency regardless and not very likely to sign with them when he's a free agent. I still hope they keep him for this year. The only exception would be if they got some kind of ridiculous offer which I don't think is going to happen.

Pitchers and catchers report on February 11. 24 days.

I don't believe so. They have been pretty open about most of it and they seem to honestly answer questions when asked about it.

I am not entirely sure what's under the hood myself, because they update it without publicly documenting it all the time. I think it is has gotten so messy that few people would really understand it anyway. That mioght be why they don't publicize it much. It is very hard to find official documentation on positional adjustments but I know it's based on an analysis of players who played multiple positions (I think in the same year or adjacent years). I don't know the details. Tango did it and it was peer reviewed, so the method is most likely sound. I can see problems with such an analysis, but there is probably no good way to do it if you are trying compare players historically.