Tiger337

I don't think the Tigers hitters are playing below their optimum as a group. The following players with 50 or more at bats have played ABOVE their PECOTA projections: Greene McGonigle Dingler Baez AS EXPECTED Carpenter Keith Torres Torkelson BELOW EXPECTATIONS Vierling McKinstry Perez Jones Lee They are just an average offense with some injured players right now. They are not going to carry a team which has been decimated by pitching injuries.

Right, The experience would not have been complete without a correction from Shelton.

yes, I just looked it up and it's grass ****. I can't remember whether I pronounced it as a French person or an ignorant Bostonian.

The Tigers are just 1 1/2 games away from the 3rd wildcard spot!!!

They've been making moves every other day.

Gratiot. I should have known better because I took French in High School.

Last time I went to Detroit, I stayed at a hotel on Gratiot Ave. I got scolded by Shelton for mispronouncing it.

I never heard that expression until I just saw it over and over again in a book recently: "The River" by Peter Heller. Excellent book by the way. I thought it might just be a made up expression for the book, but now I know it's for real!

I didn't say it was a crapshoot. Clark has a much better chance of succeeding than Workman or Jung or Hao Yu Lee. It's silly to even talk about that. However, I don't expect him to contribute much in the near future and there is no guarantee of future stardom, much like Torkelson, Greene and Mize when they were coming up. MLB is hard. I think it's unlikely that he becomes a below replacement bust too. In fact, my expectations are close to the ones you mentioned. The range of possible outcomes is wide though. Don't forget Jobe was universally regarded as one of the top couple of pitching prospects as recently as last year. So, he's not a lot different from Clark in that respect. How do you view Olson and Jobe?

I think Charlie Morton is still available.

No, I regard them similarly to how I regard Max Clark. I am still very hopeful and will be excited to see them when they are back.

Surprisingly, that is true about the pitching, but I was expecting them to improve significantly with Valdez and a full year of Melton. I am not disappointed with the hitting. I was not expecting it to be a strength and it's pretty much what I thought it would be. Their fielding has been a disaster and I think the impact of injuries to Meadows and Baez have been understated.

I didn't know anything about Olson that anyone else didn't know. I have just come to the conclusuion that pitchers with long-term injuries can not be counted on. I am not assuming that Olson and Jobe are done for their careers. I just am not counting on them. I am hopeful that Olson will some day return to form. And really, Jobe has never proven anything at the MLB level. He is still a good prospect.

I have Stathead and FanGraphs subscriptions and that is it. FanGraphs also is mostly unusable now without a subscription. Pretty much any major news or sports site is really hard to use now without a subscription. This was inevitable, but I miss the old internet. I don't subscribe to read opinions and propaganda which is what news has become

I expected nothing from Olson and Jobe this year. Once a pitcher gets seriously hurt, I expect nothing from them him until they get back. Players that get injured in previous years are not baked into my preseason expectations.