He was very likeable and loyal. A lot of players gave him credit for helping them in life which is more important than beng a good manager. It's hard to evaluate managers,but I felt that group should have won more. 1984 was a dream season, but 85 and 86 were disappointing. It was harder to make post-season back then, so I cant say they should have made the World Series every year, but I think they had the talent for more than one dominant season.