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And the 3000 hit, 500 hrs, 600 doubles thing was just a set of arbitrary categories and cutoffs to make him look better than players like Ted Williams and Willie Mays who were clearly superior to him.

This is a good summary. It might not matter to most fans whether advanced stats consider Cabrera to be Hank Aaron or Frank Thomas. Tigers fans might just consider him to be an all-time great and one of their boys and leave it at that. However, if you are somebody that likes to rank players throughout history and construct Hall of Fame tiers, it does matter.

Fenway is a park every fan should visit once because of its history and uniqueness, but it's actually a terrible place to watch a game. I rarely go anymore.

Surprisingly, it was a great city too. I wasn't really expecting that. I loved the river walk.

Have you been to a game in Lakeland? If not, I recommend it. I also don't have a desire to go to ALL the MLB parks. I had to see Tiger Stadium and Comerica. I went to Pittsburgh, because it's a great park and I wanted to do a road trip. I used to go to Montreal because it's a unique environment even though the park itself was bad. However, I am not going to make a point of visiting a crappy park just to experience every park.

How did Baez get into the top three Tigers of all time thread???

Who gives a **** what Steve Bannon thinks? He has never been in any position of relevance, but he always talks like he is king of the world.

Through age 33, which is when Cabrera stopped hitting, he had an OPS+ of 155 with 70 WAR. Pujols had a 165 OPS+ and 93 WAR through age 33. Pujols was one of the best defensive first basemen during his prime. Statistically, Cabrera was a below average defender most of his career. Fans used to make excuses for him because they loved his hitting, but he was not a good defender especially when he was trying to play 3B. He was adequate as a 1B. Pujols was better than Cabrera. Not staying fit is a poor excuse!

Cabrera was a great hitter, but not a "generational talent". A generational talent is someone who dominates the game for a decade or more. Pujols was a generational talent. Trout was a generational talent. Cabrera was Hall of Fame caliber, but not in their class. You keep saying opinion versus stats and then your opinion about Cabrera is all stats! He didn't get 600 home runs by the way. He got 500. Pujols got 700!

I Top 3 is easy. If he said top 5, it gets more interesting.

I wouldn't put any pitchers in the top three. If Verlander had played his entire career with the Tigers, I'd probably put him in there but not based on his time with the Tigers.

The only other one I might move up to third is Greenberg. If you take his predicted output from his wwii years, he gets close to Gehringer, but I'd probably still take Gehringer.

1. Cobb 2. Kaline 3. Gehringer

The second hitter is going to bat more frequently than other hitters lower in the line-up, so he should be one of the best hitters. Being able to move runners over is a useful skill for all hitters, but it is secondary to being a productive hitter

He might go 1 for 5 with a single instead of 1 for 4 with a single.

First you complain that he hits into too many double plays. Now you are mad that he didn't put the ball in play!

He has been fine at second base so far. I hope they leave him there rather than move him around.

I wasn't really expecting the infield defense to be particularly strong. We knew Torkelson had problems, Keith was an unknown, Urshela is average, Baez is good. Having Greene and Meadows in the outfield is definitely a plus.

That's cuz your a commie.

He was about the only person I could stand listening to during the pandemic. He has spend most of his career doing research to save lives. They are trying to destroy him because he represents the science based govt agencies which they hate and also he didn't bow down to Dump.

I don't really want to watch a recording once I know what has already happened (and I will know because I can't help checking!). I guess I could see going back to look at highlights or checking out a young player I haven't seen a lot of.

I just have mlbtv which I watch on the computer. I no longer have cable/satellite and haven't figured out the new ways to watch tv yet.

I like that too. Dickerson is great to listen to when I don't have my full attention on the game which is frequent. That is required on the radio, but I also find it useful on TV. I no longer have the patience to sit and watch full games every night. When I am paying full attention, Benetti is great. When I am distracted, Dickerson is better.

I always heard people talk about how smart he was, but I never paid attention to him. I have paid attention to him more since he bought Twitter and he sounds like an absolute moron. I realize he probably isn't as dumb as he sounds, but he exhibits no intellect or cleverness whatsoever. Thankfully, he is not eligible for presidency.

It's possible. Edlerly men have a difficult time holding their farts. The next step would be ****ting his pants.