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He'll fit in well with the opioid addicts.

It's a well-regulated militia.

I think there would have to be something like that. Otherwise they would just stand on the outfield grass the way they often do now.

yeah, They are probably in over their heads with this one.

I actually like doing business with Amazon. Most big companies get too big and their service eventually becomes terrible. That hasn't happened yet with Amazon in my experience.

Amazon continues to take over the entire country.

Fangraphs uses UZR, B-Ref uses DRS. UZR has him at +17 and DRS has him at +5, so there is your difference. I know the DRS methodology has been updated regularly. I am not sure when UZR was last updated. Statcast has him at +20. Just because UZR hasn't been updated though doesn't means it's wrong. When I was paying more attention to fielding stats, there wasn't a good way to account for shifts though, so that might be the reason for the discrepancy. On the other hand, +17 or +20 seems awfully high for Schoop given his past record.

He was the first to master the upper cut swing, so he was the original launch angle guy I think there were others, but none of them had anywhere near the same success. Swinging for home runs was regarded as poor practice at the time.

He was a pitcher only from 14-17, he did both in 18-19 and then became strictly an outfielder.

I don't know. Pujols looked like he was headed for the top 10 or even 5 until he faded in the second half of his career. It's tough to last long enough to get into the upper ecchelon. Trout is already having trouble staying healthy and he is only 30. Ohtani is interesting because he is doing something nobody has ever done at the same level, but he'll have to do it for a long time.

If Trout played in the 50s, he would be somebody else too.

There is no gun problem though.

At the time, Manning?

The second baseman bats second. He is gritty, never strikes out or walks and is a great bunter.

It's either Williams or Ruth. Williams edges him statistically, but it's hard for me to get away from the idea that Ruth completely transformed the game. Ruth is number one overall because he was also a very good pitcher.

Williams might be the number one hitter ever. He didn't do anything beyond that which is why I put him behind Ruth, Bonds, Cobb, Mays.

Ruth, Bonds, Mays, Cobb...Maybe Aaron instead of Williams. Not sure. Wagner needs to be considered too.

Yes, I always give players credit for their war years and Greenberg had a lot of them. I think they are pretty close, but I believe Greenberg has the edge. I don't have a cut off for "elite". The point is there are a significant number of hitters who are far enough ahead of him to be considered a different tier. Up until age 33, he was on a Hank Aaron/ Frank Robinson career path. Had he stayed on that path, I would have considered him elite.

Right 😀

It's been a good month, but it will probably drop more before it stabilizes

Unless Eduardo Rodriguez can convince him that the non-baseball life is a good one!

I don't have an exact number, but there are too many players ahead of him for me to consider him elite. Just based on hitting, he may be top 50 all-time but not top 25 and he doesn't add a lot of value beyond hitting. Just looking at Tigers players, he is probably 5th behind Cobb, Kaline, Gehringer and Greenberg. He does not compare to Cobb who is elite by any standard. He falls maybe half way between Kaline (semi-elite) and Whitaker/Trammell (not elite).

His legacy as a great Hall of Famer won't change because of one really crappy year at the end. That happens to a lot of Hall of Famers. I think his legacy has already been tarnished somewhat by his several seasons of mediocrity. He has gone from being a Frank Robinson - Hank Aaron level legend to a great but not elite Hall of Famer. There is no shame in that but it would have been nice to see the former. Pujols is kind of the same way except I think he is still in the elite tier just because the first half of his career was so amazing.

Sign Rick Porcello. He's only 33!

He is listed at 5-9 154 pounds and is probably shorter than that, so Trump will do something with that.