Tiger337

Too bad he didn't rise to the occasion in '87.

All because he represents science and didn't bow down to king donald.

Lolich is borderline, but more deserving than Morris.

Yes, Faedo has been a pleasant surprise so far. He wasn't someone I was previously envisioning as a future starter. We will learn more obout his durability thiks season.

So, it's just a typical Pineda year!

Lolich finished in the top 10 in FIP 5 times. What he did in 1971, 1972 was extraordinary though - pitching 375 and 327 innings and still finishing in the top ten in ERA+. That was like something out of the deadball era. He finished in the top three in Cy Young voting both yrears.

His stats should have been better in 1968 because the mound was higher and the strike zone was bigger than the later years. You personally may not have been surprised by his post-season because you recognized his ability and he was a good strikeout pitcher even in '68, but his performance was not especially good in '68. 28th in ERA+ and 19th in FIP in a ten team league with a relatively light workload. In your opinion, why was he sent to the bullpen? That's not what usually happens to a great pitcher having a great season. Some players that had arguably their best season in 1968 were Willie Horton, Bill Freehan, Jim Northrup and Dick McAuliffe.

Lolich was oine of the best Lolich was a great pitcher, one of the top five in Tigers history for his career. Given how strong pitching was in 1968, I just don't see how you can say how it was one of his good seasons. Since he pitched fewer innings in a pitcher friendly environment in 1968, his rate stats should have been better than other years and they weren't. Mayo Smith sent him to the bullpen for a while, so he must have been unimpressed. He was certainly fantastic in the post-season, but that was a surprise.

That is Javier Baez! He goes hot and cold and that's not going to change.

Lolich was mediocre in 68 during one of the best pitching years in the history of the game. If you look at his pitching log, it shows that he was sent to the bullpen because he pitched several bad games in a row. I also just read the same thing in Cantor's book "The Tigers of '68". He was very frustrated by his performance. Things started to click for him late in the year.

They get hurt and when you are develiping pitchers you don't know which ones are going to be durable.

You don't just throw a bunch of crap pitchers out there. Of course you try to get good pitchers, but most pitchers have ups and downs so you can't rely on them to do it every year. The year all the pitchers do well at the same time is the year you win...if you have hitters in place.

Of course it did. he was a great pitcher. Take away a great hitter and it falls apart too.

Well yeah the Atlanta model! But how many teams have been able to do that for any length of time? The problem with pitching is that it's really hard to keep a good staff together for a long time. It's easier for keep a hitting team together for for the long haul.

2011-2014 was more pitching than hitting, but they still barely made the playoffs in three of those yerars. They wouldn't have won without Cabrera and his supporting cast.

That speaks to my point that you build around offense long term and hope that one year you have enough pitching to get to post-season. It's hard to build around pitching long-term because they get hurt so often. If you already have the batters in place every year, then the year your pitchers put it together will be a good one.

Lolich didn't have a great season until the World Series. The offense played a big role in them getting to the series. They led the league in runs scored and home runs. The second place team in home runs was 50 behind the Tigers! The 84 team had Whitaker, Trammell, Lemon , Parrish, Gibson and led the league in runs scored and home runs. Those were two great teams with great balance between hitting and pitching.

I have not done anything complicated with a Mac. I mostly don't like them because finding files is not intuitive and they don't work well with Stata (which is what I teach).

I have also never had an Apple. I have had to learn how to use their crappy interface in helping students program and I am glad I've never had one.

Trump already bankrupted his along with six companies and somebody bails him out every time. So, tired of all these jerks.

Trump didn't write that. It doesn't sound like him at all.

NO WAY YOU CAN TRADE JACOB TURNER HE IS UNTOUCHABLE IF THEY TRADE HIM I AM THROUGH WITH THIS TEAM

If Archie was there, he could have killed the guy with one bullet. He is so much better than a policeman and professional security guard.

There are also trades and international signings. There are lots of different ways to build and I prefer a balanced approach, but I would lean towards position players as the foundation.

Always take the best player available. If it's close go with the hitter. e.g Mayer over Jobe. I would rather see them draft top position players along with lots of pitching depth.