Tiger337

Although the Tigers of that period had a reputation of being cheap prior to collusion, collusion is another c word which fits and it affected the Tigers more than other teams.

OK, I thought you meant he performed the same way this year as Cobb/Maeda did when they were with the Tigers. I would have liked to have Verlander down the stretch, but he is not on my wish list for the future.

I don't know if I'd want him back in Detroit at his age, but he was a useful pitcher this year, especially down the stretch. He was not like Maeda and Cobb.

yes, cheap is a better word.

I was more excited about the future in the 80s, but it wasn't as good as it should have been. Now, that was a front office that was too cautious. I don't think you can compare numbers of playoff appearances in the 2000s to the 1980s or 1960s or 1930s or 1900s

I am not really being cynical or negative. I mostly like Harris, but I think he is very cautious. My post was an exaggeration in jest.

I really doubt this is true. They know approximately how much he is worth and they aren't going to off him 250 million less than that.

I never like to make assumptions about injured pitchers. I hope Olson has a strong healthy season, but I am not penciling him for 30 games or anything close to that. They need to acquire another legitimate MLB starter even if Flaherty stays.

I don't think he really is.

Whatever they are doing isn't working and I am talking about all across the leagues not just the Tigers. Injuries are becoming no less prevalent with modern practices. I would have liked to have seen Montero and Melton left in the rotation.

I am pretty sure nobody is posting seriously about this.

I think they'll be really interested in keeping Finnegan and he might want to stay given that he pitched better with them. It might be a small sample or it might be that they know how to work with him. Montero doesn't seem like he would be a priority for the reason you mentioned.

They won't get either one. They are going to make another run at Bregman and fall short. Don't worry though. They'll sign a pitcher coming off an injury and another one that used to be good 5 years ago. They'll also get a bunch of relievers off the waiver wire and trade Malloy for a gritty utility guy.

Wow, I did not know that. My family has a connection to him. My father's friend Eddie "Bucky" Boehm (you can look him up on b-ref) played with Shantz in the minors in 1948 and they became lifetime friends. Shantz owned some really nice rental houses in Lakeland and he sometimes let Bucky use them when he wasn't doing anything with them. One of them happened to be available the weekend my father, mother (the only time she joined the boys on a Lakeland trip!) and I were heading to Lakeland, so Bucky passed it on to us. It was the nicest vacation housing I every stayed at. That was a good thing because I doubt my mom would have liked Lakeland much otherwise!.

That could very well be true, but there should be a 40-man roster spot for him.

McKinstry is kind of like him.

I agree Malloy will probably start the season in the minors. I am thinking about the 40-man roster. It is at 47 now and there will be maybe 3 rule 5 additions. I think there will be 5 players leaving via free agency. So, they will need to drop at least 5 more.

I think Ibanez won't be back. He is going to be 33, is coming off a bad year (didn't even hit LHP) and is eligible for arbitration.

It's hard to imagine Jones not staying on the roster, especially given their need for right-handed batters.

Thanks.

You can get rule 5 eligibles on Fangraphs too, but they don't quite match. I know Edman tends to update his list frequently, so I use that one. Eduardo Valencia is on fangraphs but not Edman's list. Edman lists him as a minor league free agent which I assume is why he is not eligible for R5.

At the time, I was hoping that the Tigers would trade for two relievers with good track records. They got one in Finnegan, but I wish they got another. I didn't think the starters and hitters available were going to be worth what they would cost. Suarez is slump prone, so I wasn't that excited about two months of him. Morton and Paddack were just prayers and I didn't see them as upgrades over Montero and Melton. It did make sense to move Melton to the bullpen given his innings limit.

This, of course, brings to mind the famous Ty Cobb story. He was asked by a reporter what he would hit in the modern game under more challenging conditions. Cobb replied that he'd probably hit about .300. The reported expressed surprise that he would admit that. Cobb replied:"You have to remember that I'm 70 years old".

yes, 2024 was a big step forward.

He's right. It was a good season but not a step forward. Perhaps the organization as a whole stepped forward, but the Tigers on the field really did not.