Tiger337

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They tried in the minors a few years ago. They used in the allstar game last year and fans loved it. It's stupid, but I wouldn't rule out them trying in the MLB regular season some time in the future.

According to AI, the majority of fans do not like the rule. I am not sure that's true, but I think that the majority of avid fans don't like it. The players like it, so maybe do it after 11 innings? I still wouldn't like it, but if they have to do it, after 11 innings is better than after 9 innings.

If they call a tie after 11 innings, there would not be that many of them. Before the rule change, 9.5% of games went extra innings, but only 2.5% went beyond 11 innings. 2.5% is an average of 4 games per year for every team. Are they really saving bullpens by what they are doing? There seems to be just as many injuries if not more than ever.

Tango doesn't like the home run derby idea beause he says a home run contest is something that never happens in a real game whereas trying to get a runner home from second happens all the time. Anyway, amost all his readers disliked the idea of the extra inning base runner. I think there are solutions to the bullpen protection issue which don't involve bastardizing the game. Expanding rosters like you said is one of them. I think changing the ball, so pitchers are not forced to throw with max effort on every pitch is another one.

That could work, but I don't think protecting the bullpen is the only reason for the rule change. I remember a discussion on Tom Tango's site, not long before the rule change was made. He posed a question to readers asking them how they felt about putting a runner on second in extra innings. He works in the game, so I got the feeling he had some inside information and that it was not just one of his thought exercises. He strongly supported the move and his main reason was that fans don't want to stay at games for hours and hours watching extra innings. I think protecting the bullpen is a benefit of the move, but not the primary one.

It's been going on since 2020

I don't really like those either, although they happen so infrequently as to not fundamentally change the way the game is played.

That's what I meant about being able to track every play. When I was a kid, I would listen to Tigers game on the radio and keep a box sore. Every play would be tracked. And that has been done officially for every game for decades. That's what I meant by every play is tracked. That was beautiful and orderly and now it's gone. You described the pitcher stat problem. But what about the base runner? The runner gets credit for scoring a run without anybody even reaching base. That just throws the whole system out of order.

LOL, This has nothing to with saber. It has to do with playing BASEBALL as it has always been played. By fundamentally changing the rules if the game to allow free baserunners, it is no longer baseball. You are creating wins and losses by changing the rules of the game because the real game is not giving you the result that you want.

All throughout the history of the game, before the extra-base-runner rule, every event in the game was a real event that could be earned and tracked. That was part of the beauty of baseball. One of the things that has always appealed to me about baseball is that they didn't resort to cheap gimmicks to appeal to new fans. I really don't care what they do in other sports. I think the football overtime rules are stupid, but I don't care about the game enough to get upset about it. I would not mind if they eliminated ties in post-season. The rules of playing the game would still be the same as the tie games in regular season. They would just keep on playing in the playoffs.

I agree.

It's a win/loss according to the rules. It's just not real baseball. If it was real baseball, they wouldn't switch back to the traditional rules for the playoffs.

I don't think the rule is unfair or bad for the Tigers. I don't like the rule for baseball. As far as I am concerned, what's good for the game always comes before what's good for the Tigers.

Exactly! I would watch it, but it would be a lot less satisfying than getting into the playoffs without that BS.

I would be fine with ties. They could have two extra innings and then call it a tie. If you can't decide the game playing real baseball, then just call it a tie.

It's fake because putting base runners on base for free is not baseball. I know it counts the same in the standings which sucks, but when I am sitting there watching a game and I see a base runner on base, it is no longer a baseball game for me.

I think this kind of crap happens in a lot of places, especially in the male environment of pro sports. It's good that the Tigers organization is addressing it.

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball. I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.

I have no special memory of my first live game. It was at Fenway, but I don't know when it was. What I do remember was becoming a Tigers fan. We lived in Massachusetts, so everyone in the neighborhood was a Red Sox fan. However, my father was a huge Cardinals fan, so I learned to hate the Red Sox in 1967. I was a Cardinals fan for a while, but my father told me I couldn't be a Cardinals fan because that was his team. The Tigers were good, so I chose them. As my family was spending a week in Cape Cod, I was listening to the games on the radio with my father. I think there was one TV game. In seven games between the Red Sox and Tigers, I remember the Tigers going 5-2 winning the middle 5 games. This would make it August 9 - August 18, 1968. I remember it as a 7-game series, but it was really back to back weekend series. I have no memory of the Cleveland series in between. Anyway, my team beat my father's team in the World Series and I never turned back.

I saw "Fluharty 5.40 ERA" and though "****, didn't he just pitch?"

At that time, I had high hopes for every player that was called up.

My MAGA and semi-MAGA friends are more proud of the fact that Trump "doesn't take a salary" than anything else about him. They think they are going to get me on that every time.

Tork might be batting .180 and can't field, but he's clutch. That's something you can't teach.