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It didn't take hindsight to figure out that Morton, Paddack and Jansen a number of other players would probably be a waste of money. None of them were fatal because they've been short-term, but many were predictable.

They can still be a good organization without Harris and Hinch, but canning analytics would be suicide in this era. I don't see that Gehringer is suggesting that though.

Me too, but the slow recovery time starts early.

Old people and injuries

And I am pretty sure they were lower than 20% in 2024 with a similar but worse roster.

He only had one game like that last year. Other than that, he was very consistent. You may be remembering that game because it was in playoffs in relief.

Perhaps they believe the difference in defense is so big that they don't care about the offensive difference.

I hope those who think the Tigers will get a prospect haul are right, but I am skeptical. I think teams value their top prospects more than they used to.

There is also a possibility that he was not actually involved, but needs to protect those who were because they have other dirt on him.

Not sure.

I hate watching Jansen pitch.

He said: Josue De Paula and Mike Sirota

Tigers starting pitcher WAR leaders 2022-2026: Skubal 18.1 Olson 4.5 Mize 3.7 Rodriguez 3.5 Flaherty 2.6 https://www.sports-reference.com/stathead/baseball/player-pitching-season-finder.cgi?request=1&match=player_season_combined&order_by=p_war&year_min=2022&year_max=2026&team_id=DET

Team leaders are not "gritty" though. Gritty is used for a utility player who lacks talent but hustles and fights hard and gets the most out of his abilty. He is usually short, shows his emotion and doesn't shave regularly. A team leader is intense, competitive, hard nosed. The modern term seems to be "gamer". He is a regular and one of the best players on the team. He doesn't show a lot of emotion except when it's required to motivate his teammates.

They could potentially have a good line-up if all that happens and all those guys come through which is not likely. Who's going to pitch?

They still would have been in the thick of the race if not for all the injuries. They did the right thing in keeping Skubal. It was fun seeing them have success the last two years.

yes, it's been going on forever. I know why sexual abuse is so prevalent in general. Men are taught at a very young age that that virility equals manhood. They abuse women at a young age and their peers won't say anything to discourage it because that wouldn't be "cool". And many men never grow out of it. It seems that not much has been done to change this over the years. I don't know why abuse of minors is so prevalent since that is not generally encouraged or accepted. I believe that ultra wealthy people do it BECAUSE it is so wrong. They get off on being able to get away with sick activity that others can't get away with. I don't know why it's also prevalent among other classes of people.

He seems to have a problem controlling his anger rather than being a character. I guess Rogers would qualify.

The Orioles got Chris Hoiles, so it was a steal for them.

yes, I have been doing that in this forum for 23 years now. yikes! I will grant you that the Tigers have a very bland group of personalities and that they would be more entertaining with a few characters or rebels or something.

Trump didn't write that. He never would have remembered the names of those people.

Do we really want to make a trade with Tampa Bay?

I'd rather have some players that can hit and field. I mean they already have plenty of irritating players. 😀

I will get interested as it gets closer to the deadline, but right now it's depressing to think about. I am Tired of the Tigers being so bad that they have to sell at the deadline.

1982 was interesting, because they had a winning record that year. They were tied for first before they collapsed in June.