Tiger337

Yes, I know. They were just cartoon characters. It was a good show.

She was very sweet too, whereas Wilma was kind of a b****

It counts for a lot! My motivation for the list was to compare Greene's early career to past Tigers.

That is how I remember it being reported at the time. If there was group think and steretyping involved, it sure didn't come from me. Leflore was one of my all-time favorites and I hated that trade when it was made. There are some articles like the one below which indicate Andersion thought he was a bad influence. I can't find one that specifically mentions Whitaker. https://www.vintagedetroit.com/how-sparky-anderson-saved-the-tigers-from-ron-leflore/?srsltid=AfmBOop6xrg7CrDsEBNSWslE6sixI0ezfDv_X1SNOsJnMMNSbIMiiWXJ

I already said that I think Harris is a solid GM and that I have no interest in seeing him replaced. He's not perfect though and I'd like to see him be a little more aggressive/creative. I think several other postets share that view.

The 70s, 80s team had all kinds of different personalties including guys like Morris and Gibson who might not have been regarded as ideal teammates. On the other hand, Anderson got rid of Leflore because of his bad influence on Whitaker. But that's something that fans can't really know. I just want the Tigers to accumulate talented players. I'll let them decide who is a good teammate, because I don't think fans really know about those things.

What conclusion is that?

Just looked it up now. 426 pages. The constitution is less than one tenth of that.

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They might need a bad boy on the team. They are one of the most vanilla teams I've ever seen. 😄

That's been the assumption with him, but the the Astros have performed well over the years with him on the team. So, I don't really have an opinion on whether he would be a good teammate. I know about the incident with the catcher last year, but it might be an isolated incident where he lost his temper or maybe others on the team hated the catcher too. Who knows? If the Tigers signed him, I would assume he was not a problem. I doubt we'll have to worry about that though.

If I remember correctly, the majority of people here liked that trade.

We all know.

What about Skubal?

Yes, I did say that you were acting sensitively. What you got wrong was why I was saying that. 😄

That's not what I said. I think that saying everyone wants wants Harris gone every time he gets questioned makes you appear sensitive.

He was right to make the deadline trades and lucky that things turned out different than planned. I think it's disingenuous to suggest that the way they made the playoffs that year was part of some grand scheme by Harris. That season was a lot of fun, but it was lucky and won't be repeated. It's interesting that the 2025 was pretty much the mirror image of 2024 which I think is more the ramdomness of baseball than anything they did wrong.

Even Chas thought that was a mistake.

I am very objective when it comes to player evaluatilon. Some posters here are very interested in the management side of the game and I like that about them. I am mostly interested in players though. I can't say what specific moves they should have made or should be making now. I just have an overall sense that Harris is very conservative and doesn't like to take risks compared to other GMs. I'd like to see him do more, but once the season starts, I pretty much accept what the roster is and enjoy the games.

Again, I think Harris is a good GM and I Iike his overall plan. I just think he is very rigid and I would prefer that he took more risks. I don't understand why people get so sensitive to any critique of Harris at all.

A top executive in a multi-billionaire dollar business fails to make one of the biggest deals of his tenure. I guess "there was nothing he could do about it" is a fair excuse.

He may have had input in their desperation run, but the fact is he traded key pieces at the trade deadline. You can maybe give him credit for giving Hinch the OK to execute pitching chaos, but he put the team in a position where it was almost impossible to win. I simply don't believe the plan was to trade two of their best pitchers at the deadline and then win with pitching chaos. That was an experiment to help them get through the season and a miracle happened. They kind of tried it again in the second half of 25 and it didn't work. 2024 was a lot of fun, but it was luck.

uh oh, you are going to be lectured!

You can say that about 25, but 24 was a fluke that will never be repeated again. Harris gave up on the season that year. Any credit for that season goes to Hinch and Fetter, but even that was largely luck.