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Old Man Stafford can't find the edge.

They should both have like three by now.

Prime was due. The Lions and Packers gave them their best game in history, a return to the mean requires an even worse TNF game than normal.

Speaks to how good the Lions and Packers are that they were able to both perform so well in this god forsaken Thursday Night game. Though they both had six days between games, these teams both had three.

Who are we rooting for in Rams/49ers? I think the Rams are better, but a Rams win may help eliminate the Niners before they play the Lions.

The Lions are algorithmic based in their prices, while a lot of teams have Personal Seat Licenses. If they maintain this level of good for the next five years or so, I could see them transition, but PSLs require like ten-year contracts. The algorithm allows them to have dynamic prices based on demand. So people with front row seats, in any section, will see higher price hikes than plebes like me.

Don’t tell the Lions, but after last year (73% hike), I got off suuuuper easy. 7% increase. I posted about my increase in a STH Facebook group. Left for dinner and checked the post a minute ago.

It's a dumb take by Orlovsky. The defense is overall really good, there is not some glaring weakness in the secondary that has just gone untapped by opposing offenses. Especially with Branch as a free floating safety. He claims that they are "good, not great" and I think that's significantly underselling how well Brian Branch and Kerby Joseph have played, who are the reinforcements coming on those very deep shots against man coverage. If you're an opposing offense facing a healthy Lions defense, you're probably not going have success running the ball and you're probably not going to sustain a long drive, so in that sense, sure, might as well try to take a deep shot every now and then if you can get single coverage. If one connects you're in business. But you're going to get some of those picked off if you're doing it three times a quarter.

He was a healthy scratch last week to allow for more defensive linemen to dress in the rotation, but if I had to guess there is a growing lack of trust there.

This feels like a really stupid decision all around.

The real possibility in my mind if you kick it there is that your offense doesn’t see the ball again. If the game goes to OT tied at 34, whoever wins the toss is marching down, scoring 6, and winning the game 40-34. So you’re either kicking it and asking your defense to prevent 30 yards in 40 seconds, or you’re asking your offense to gain a half yard. And if your choosing the latter, and your offense doesn’t get it, you’re just asking your defense to prevent 40 yards in 40 seconds to force OT, with what would likely be a slightly more conservative Green Bay offense. I like the defense’s odds to force OT in the latter scenario. I don’t love the defense’s odds to prevent OT in the former. That being said though, I wouldn’t be all that surprised if the Dan Campbell calculus here is a little different in the playoffs, where both teams are guaranteed a possession in OT regardless if a TD is scored. Of course, then he’ll just go for two in OT of the NFC Championship Game. Probably with a run up the middle.

If it's touched behind the line of scrimmage but still goes beyond the line of scrimmage, it's no different than a shanked punt. So AO touching it is no different than it being muffed by the return man.

The Niners/Rams game Thursday Night will be interesting. If the Rams win, the Niners will be 2.5 games back of both the division and wildcard with three games to play, holding no tiebreakers. They play the Dolphins in Week 16, but with Week 17 being Monday Night against us, there’s probably a decent chance they’re mathematically eliminated at 7-8 by kickoff (again, if they lose Thursday). That didn’t matter for the Lions in 2022, but who knows if they would shut down their veterans at that point. If they beat the Rams though, they’ll be in the thick of it, probably entering Monday Night at 8-7, in must-win mode.

We would be too if the Bills had just beaten the Packers 34-31 and we had just lost to the Rams 44-42. These teams are both very good. Man coverage tends to struggle against elusive QBs. This should be another very good game.

This is helpful reassurance that the Eagles cannot catch the Lions on Strength of Victory. It feels more likely the Lions go 4-0 than that they go 2-2.

I would predict they lose 2 of 3 to end the season, maybe even all three. If they win two of three and finish 14-3 it's hard to deny them as a real threat, but 13-4 is exactly what they were in the 2022 season when they were exposed as frauds and knocked out by the Giants in the wildcard round. If both they and the Lions go 3-0, it likely sets up a really weird scenario where a game between the 15-1 1st place Lions and 14-2 2nd place Vikings means nothing for either team, because the Lions will have the #1 seed locked up and the Vikings will have the #5 seed locked up. I expect that if that happens we will see the Lions rout them in week 18, because they will have a game and the NFC South (or maybe West) Champion the next week and be taking it a little easy, while the Lions will have a bye the following week and be Dan Campbelling it into the playoffs.

It's the eye test for me. The Vikings beat the Jags by 5, Titans by 10, and should have lost to both the Bears and Cardinals. I think they're a well coached team, but the defense is faltering, and the offense is not on an elite level. Compared to the Packers, who have a better offense (IMO), better defense (IMO), and are equally well coached.

This is a good addition, and I agree entirely with your assessment. Watching that game against the Packers, they were just the antithesis of a Dan Campbell team.

Hot Seat Doug Pederson: good as gone Antonio Pierce: should be gone Mike McCarthy: the children are running the day care, I hope he gets extended Raheem Morris: if I was a Falcons fan I would want him gone Zac Taylor: this is where I would want to go if I am Ben Johnson

Hurts doesn't look good this year. The Eagles have been winning despite him. You have to be a bad QB to win nine in a row in Philadelphia and have even the national media being like "wow your running back must be an MVP" I'm not all that worried about not having Hutch, though it's obviously preferable to have him. They haven't lost a game without him. I just want to at least have what our defense looked like the moment he went out. Paschal, Levi, Alim, Reader, etc.

In the AFC/NFC era, the 2015 Panthers, 2011 Packers, 1998 Vikings, 1985 Bears, and 1984 49ers are all tied at 15-1. I would concur that 16-1 > 15-1. Interestingly though, only the 85 Bears of that group won the Super Bowl. I would take 15-2 if it meant a Super Bowl. 😁

The NFL allows Jawaan Taylor to jump on practically every single play. They have for two years now. I don't get it.

Lions will be wearing their black alternates for this one.

Week 15 NFL Power Rankings Detroit Lions (12-1) *Super Bowl Contenders Tier* Philadelphia Eagles (11-2) Buffalo Bills (10-3) Kansas City Chiefs (11-1) Green Bay Packers (9-4) Pittsburgh Steelers (10-3) Baltimore Ravens (8-5) *Great But Not This Year Tier* Minnesota Vikings (11-2) Los Angeles Chargers (8-4) Denver Broncos (8-5) *Good Not Great Tier* Washington Commanders (8-5) Houston Texans (8-5) Los Angeles Rams (7-6) Seattle Seahawks (8-5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (7-6) San Francisco 49ers (6-7) *Mediocre Tier* Arizona Cardinals (6-7) Miami Dolphins (6-7) Atlanta Falcons (6-7) Cincinnati Bengals (4-8) Indianapolis Colts (6-7) Dallas Cowboys (5-7) *You're Really Bad Tier* Carolina Panthers (3-10) New Orleans Saints (5-8) New England Patriots (3-10) Chicago Bears (4-9) *Matt Eberflus Was Recently Your Coach Tier* Cleveland Browns (3-10) *You're DOO-DOO Bad Tier* Jacksonville Jaguars (3-10) Tennessee Titans (3-10) Las Vegas Raiders (2-11) New York Giants (2-11) New York Jets (3-10) *You Owe Aaron Rodgers Like $50 Million Tier*

vs. Setting: 12/15/2024 4:25pm EST on CBS Site: Ford Field in Detroit, MI Weather: Climate Controlled Opening Spread: Lions -3 All-Time Series Record: Bills lead, 7-4-1 Last Meeting: 11/24/2022, Bills won 28-25 Buffalo Bills (10-3) Head Coach: Sean McDermott (8th Season: 83-44) Projected Starting QB: Josh Allen (7th Season: 73-33) Last Game: 44-42 L @ Los Angeles Rams (7-6) Looking Ahead to Week #16: Sunday v. New England Patriots (3-10) Your Detroit Lions (12-1) Head Coach: Dan Campbell (4th Season: 36-27-1) Projected Starting QB: Jared Goff (9th Season: 78-51-1) Last Week: 34-31 W v. Green Bay Packers (9-4) Looking Ahead to Week #16: Sunday @ Chicago Bears (4-9) Elsewhere in the NFL Primetime: Rams @ 49ers (TNF), Packers @ Seahawks (SNF), Bears @ Vikings (8:00pm MNF), Falcons @ Raiders (8:30pm MNF) 1:00pm: Cowboys @ Panthers, Chiefs @ Browns, Dolphins @ Texans, Jets @ Jaguars, Commanders @ Saints, Ravens @ Giants, Bengals @ Titans 4:05/4:25pm: Patriots @ Cardinals, Colts @ Broncos, Buccaneers @ Chargers, Steelers @ Eagles