MichiganCardinal

Between the whispers of the Rams wanting Ramsey out because of locker room issues, Ramsey’s slight decline last year, and Ramsey wanting to go to Miami (IOW at least not primarily wanting to go to Detroit), I have zero issue with not engaging in the trade discussions. This was very likely not the case of the Lions being “outbid”, but rather Holmes not being interested for one reason or another. That said, I still fully expect the position to be addressed in free agency.

Legal tampering starts in less than 24 hours! Crazy how well the NFL makes by far the shortest season of the sports into a year-round spectacle.

There are just so many good corners in this draft that I think they will trust themselves to find the diamonds that remain in rounds 2 and/or 3. The only exception I could see is if one of those top three corners (Gonzalez/Porter/Witherspoon) takes a Gardner-like leap. Certainly Sauce Gardner is an unrealistic expectation to have for any rookie corner, but if Holmes sees that kind of player in one of them, I could see that player being taken at #6... I don't see that in any of the three right now though.

Two-goal swing courtesy NHL officiating.

Weak call.

I think he was crossed out in pencil even before the drag racing and that incident put it in Sharpie.

I agree. I think it’s more about accuracy and timing of down field passes. Of which Goff isn’t elite, but it’s not some absolutely necessary trait. Whether you can dial up and throw the ball 45 yards or 75 yards really only matters on the Hail Mary final play. So maybe once per season.

I never insinuated that the Bears weren't aware of the cap hit. I said that if I was a fan, I would like not love the move, in part because the WR they acquired has to be paid (i.e., is not on a rookie contract / is not a draft pick). I don't think the Bears management is good, but they're not incompetent. I even agree with your second point. It doesn't stop them from making more moves, it's just something to be considered. It's OK to just disagree with a post or feel you could have made a point better without being a jerk about it.

Should I amend my post to saying that "The deal gets you a good WR (who you will need to pay $20 million)"? The Bears have to pay DJ Moore $20MM... In other words, 9% of the entire 2023 salary cap.... Nothing about my post was incorrect. He is not on a rookie contract and the Bears have to pay him a lot of money.

Browsing the Bears and Panthers boards both sides seem to have a majority who are in favor of the move. If I am a Bears fan, I like this deal, but I don't love it. A deal needed to be done, you could not stay at #1 under any circumstance. The deal gets you a good WR (who you will need to pay) and a 2024 1st that will probably be middle of the road. But also, you only net one additional pick in this draft, when you need talent across the board. The Bears still only have four picks across the first three rounds, and will still be dog shit next year unless they can find plug-and-play talent late, or spend a ton of money in free agency. The Bears may look to move back again, because they just have so many holes. If I am a Panthers fan, I love this deal just as far as I love my team leadership. If I trust my GM to go get the guy, I love this deal. I'm confident that at least one of the four QBs will be a guy who pans out and it's now his job to figure out who that is. My gut says they fall in love with Bryce Young and regret it long-term. If I am a Lions fan, I love it. One more QB going in the top five and one less defense-first team inside the top five. Now let's see either Holmes jump to #3, or a QB-needy team jump to #3. Win-win.

MichiganCardinal Logic: The Panthers-Bears trade happened, so everything else will happen too. 😉

I think it is really good for our prospects of Anderson or Wilson falling into our lap.

Hopefully the Pistons aren't going to bid for his services too. He might be better than some of the players they are trotting out there these days.

Correct. I'm anticipating the trade. Though hopefully they'll screw that up too.

Chicago's leadership didn't inspire fear in me by trading what turned into the #32 overall pick for Chase Claypool. They have the draft capital and cap space to prove me wrong, but I think there's a decent chance they're blowing it up again by 2025.

If you need the helpline, I think it's aired every two minutes or so on 97.1.

"While we are at it, San Francisco, here are picks you won't know what all to do with."

IOW, "The salary cap exists and to prove it, Houston isn't allowed to waste a poor selection on a player who will not make it three seasons in the league anyway" -NFL

That makes more sense. It is odd he wouldn't be there. He's super active on Twitter, but I don't see anything indicating where he might be doing his off-season workouts.

Better them than us!

I think Chark being there is somewhat of an encouraging sign. I wouldn't read too much into Jamaal not being there. He only had 16 targets all season, he's not exactly a pass catching threat.

I think they were all living in LaLa Land post-Super Bowl win thinking it would last forever, and it wasn’t until the post-mortem this year that they had an “oh shit” moment where they realized the Rams need a few sticks of dynamite and a whole scale rebuild. Kudos to their leadership for doing it though. A lot of franchises (Cowboys come to mind) live in perpetual purgatory because they keep putting band aids over bullet wounds. If they draft well, the Rams should be back to the playoffs by 2025 or 2026. The way they’re off loading talent they might even be putting their sights on Caleb Williams.

Holmes should offer the Rams Goff for Stafford and two 1sts.

His injury red flag is going to make a large number of teams say no thanks.

Of the Rodgers model, I think Stroud is the most similar in this draft class.