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Sounds like we are heading straight for seven straight wins and a wildcard berth for Christmas, right??

Cobb Kaline Gehringer Cabrera Brandon Inge and Bobby Higginson too, but really small, and in areas that no one but the chiseler and his drinking buddies know about.

It's possible. I'll be nicer I suppose. 🙂 It's not as bad as some departments I've seen, holding cases for months seemingly hoping that parties (victims) will forget. Surely that wasn't the case here, so I guess I should give them some benefit of the doubt.

vs. Setting: 11/20/2022 1:00pm EST on FOX Site: MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ Weather: 44° High, 22° Low, 35% chance of rain, 11mph Wind Opening Spread: Giants -4 All-Time Series Record: Lions lead, 24-21-1 Last Meeting: 10/27/2019, Giants won 31-26 New York Giants (7-2) Head Coach: Brian Daboll (1st Season: 7-2) Projected Starting QB: Daniel Jones (4th Season: 19-26) Last Week: 24-16 W v. Houston Texans (1-7-1) Looking Ahead to Week #12: Thanksgiving @ Dallas Cowboys (6-3) Your Detroit Lions (3-6) Head Coach: Dan Campbell (2nd Season: 6-19-1) Projected Starting QB: Jared Goff (7th Season: 48-43-1) Last Week: 31-30 W @ Chicago Bears (3-7) Looking Ahead to Week #12: Thanksgiving v. Buffalo Bills (6-3) Elsewhere in the NFL Primetime: Titans @ Packers (TNF), Chiefs @ Chargers (SNF), 49ers @ Cardinals (MNF) 1:00pm: Panthers @ Ravens, Bears @ Falcons, Browns @ Bills, Commanders @ Texans, Eagles @ Colts, Jets @ Patriots, Rams @ Saints 4:05/4:25pm: Raiders @ Broncos, Cowboys @ Vikings, Bengals @ Steelers BYE: Jacksonville Jaguars, Seattle Seahawks, Miami Dolphins, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

I know this was tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think you need federal funding or resources to do this kind of investigation. Get the statements of the police who were present, take the statements of all victims and willing alleged perps, take the statements of any witness that comes forward, review the video, and type the report. I get that this was a more nuanced / high-profile investigation than the department is probably used to, but I still don't get how it takes two weeks.

I didn't know this until I read it here. If anything, I think it's another reason to rely on others (including LE) to manage the bulk of the investigation.

Just saw this thread today. Bacon is traditionally a very fair and balanced reporter for Michigan sports, and I think this is significant, and well worth the read. I think it's fully possible the Big Ten elected to wait until law enforcement concluded their investigation to start theirs. Bacon mentions this possibility briefly towards the end of his thread, but I don't know if he does that theory justice, because I could fully understand why the B1G would want to do that, from a corporate standpoint. It's an easy path 'out' from a toxic situation that's inevitably going to leave some of your constituents upset... Allow law enforcement to investigate first, let them do the dirty work, then come in from behind with clean-up if/where needed. If Crump and/or others are charged with assault this week, there is not much the B1G needs to do with them. MSU will likely formally boot them from the team, and they will likely be looking at a lengthy period of probation, if they get a reasonable judge (and assuming there is no criminal history). I don't foresee the B1G levying any sort of institutional charge against MSU, even despite what is contained here. Maybe the game officials or field mics can corroborate some of it, but a lot of it (language in particular) will be denied, and that's that. It's laying the foundation for a possible pattern of institutional behavior, but I can't imagine what the B1G would do with it on its own. A public reprimand? It's hard to say that MSU did anything wrong in their response to the tunnel incident, quickly suspending eight players and issuing public apologies. I will say - if this is what Warren is doing, there would be no harm in saying so. A two-sentence statement reading that the investigation remains ongoing and that the B1G is awaiting the results of the police report would silence a lot of this. I will further say (and this is somewhat political so I'll tread carefully) that a lot of the criticisms laid upon the feet of Warren here can be extended to the UMPD, short of something unknown being contained in the report. That assumption taken as true (that nothing new earth-shattering is going to come out that took them time to flesh out), Bacon is 100% correct that this two-week investigation could have been completed by a journalist in two days. There is no need to churn this out long-term, and police departments often do so for bureaucratic reasons (so-and-so is on vacation, this needs to be approved by X, this needs Y's signature too) that defy a sense of justice. Cases that can be forwarded to a prosecutor in two days should be forwarded to a prosecutor in two days. In this case, I still firmly believe that Crump should have been arrested the day of the incident. Dragging this out, and all cases like it, only hurts the victim(s), the alleged perpetrator(s), and everyone else involved. I'll step down from the soap box now.

I would be fine with that for the regular season. Maybe putting 5:00 on the clock if tied after both teams have had a possession... I think playoff OT could be expanded though, I would prefer both teams have a chance in today's offense-first NFL. I don't think a Mahomes/Allen AFC Championship showdown should end in OT without one of them touching the ball.

Why are NFL overtimes only 10:00? Even if Buffalo gets it back, they're already in a near two-minute offense. Might as well go NCAA and eliminate the clock altogether if you're going to a single 10-minute period.

So infuriating to think back to week three and know that the Lions should have beat this team.

I think that was a catch... To say it's not is to go beyond the bounds of replay into super slo-mo overthinking nonsense. You cannot see the tip of the ball as he goes to the ground and I think it's just as likely it's touching his forearm as it is it's touching the ground.

I stand by my earlier statement of being impressed with Hutch today.

I sincerely hope we can look back on this thread late next year thinking about how far we've come... Dan Campbell hasn't been convincing in his sophomore season, but this equals his win total from last year, halfway through the season. As they say, "a win is a win".

YES SIR!

Let's go, two more!

Rather holding than DPI and if he doesn't do it, he's burned for 30+.

Feels like way too much time is left. Have to hope for a Bears mistake to win this one.

Feels like we haven't seen Williams as much today. Not sure why.

Lions may not get the ball back if we are being honest with ourselves.

I'm expecting a fake here.

He's had a decent game. It's not his responsibility to ensure Fields doesn't run all over us, that's on the entire defense. Granted, it's not hard to look good when you're on the field with a bunch of players who would not be on any other NFL team, but still.

It's been really good to see Hutch flying around the field today. He's coming into his own.

Lol at Goff extending the ball fifteen yards short of the line to gain.

No secondary in the NFL can cover for that long.