Jason_R

I agree with your first paragraph but I still think something isn't adding up. McLellan has gone further than I've ever seen a head coach go in calling out his players for lack of effort and heart. But it hasn't amounted to anything. I don't know, maybe it is as simple as the young kids see veteran players who aren't producing getting pencilled into the lineup every night, so the young kids internalize that there is no room for them to "win" a job, they just have to not lose one. I'm not sure about the roster construction. Yes, the team has relied on a lot of smaller players, but the team has some big players who just play small. Yes, Soderblom, also Rasmussen. But they have plenty of guys who are big enough to finish checks and just don't. There is clearly a culture issue. I'm only half joking here, but I think Mac should bring in Dan Campbell for the exit interviews because this team is missing grit.

I found Wheeler's piece weird because he said, "He doesn’t have obvious starter talent or size, but I could see him getting there or at the very least becoming a solid, reliable tandem goalie," while also saying that he almost ranked him over Cossa. Then he had Bear ranked over Danielson, MBN, and Finnie which had me wondering whether he is simply over-rating a prospect who has not yet shown himself in the NHL. But the elephant in the room here is why it seems that prospects and veterans come to the Wings and struggle, or leave the Wings then flourish. There is too much of a culture of not making mistakes and not enough of a culture of playing with 100% effort on every shift.

Now it’s 4-4? They’re not bad when they play with urgency.

Way too many guys leave Detroit and look like different players.

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This shouldn’t make me as happy as it does.

Yes, we have watched as the Lions acquire players with a plan for their development and then (in many cases) develop the players according to that plan. We have seen the Tigers appeal to players because their analytics team gives them strategies for improvement. Players on the Red Wings seem to be managed not to make mistakes. It seemed like TM was trying to break this trend after he arrived and maybe he still is by calling out players for their intensity. But I just don’t see any offensive creativity, spontaneity, or enthusiasm outside of Kane and Debrincat.

Don’t tell me he wouldn’t be an upgrade over at least four guys.

Well, Holland didn't even hit much in the first round, but you are right that Yzerman had a lot of picks that have amounted to nothing. Undoubtedly scouting needs to be scrutinized but what are they doing or not doing to develop these players?

If I recall correctly, that is the second hat trick they’ve given up this week.

Even down three with six minutes left they won’t shoot the puck. Unbelievable.

So that’s why ASP is in GR.

Pathetic

Wasted PP

Now it’s a NYR shooting gallery.

Someone took out Larkin low. No penalty. Larkin doubled over on bench.

Pat Kirwan from Sirius XM NFL Radio had Freeling for Detroit’s pick in their mock draft today.

Hooker was the 68th overall pick. That’s more like a $100 lottery pick.

How are we feeling about the Faulk trade today?

Don’t trade up to take him in the third round, Brad.

I stumbled across this site which shows ice time for various line combinations: https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/ Just for grins I looked up Marco Kasper. People talk about a sophomore slump but last year he spent almost half his even strength ice time with Larkin/Raymond or Kane/Debrincat. This season he spent less than a quarter of his even strength ice time with them. This is not so much a sophomore slump as it is the obvious consequence of pairing a kid with linemates who are replacement level or worse.

Yes, but one of the challenges for a young defenseman is learning how to assert yourself offensively while remaining responsible defensively. It is exciting to see him flash that skill though.

Win

OMG. ADB.