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since made up stuff carries weight in this discussion, we all know every politician would have thrown money at Vx development in that situation. IT's like congratulating Trump for doing what every politician does for any problem ever.

this team has got to be cursed.

Guy A: Rejects 100m does Guy B: Does not reject 100m doses Result = same. 0 = 100m I couldn't imagine coming here to make that actual argument.

hashtag woulda been the same though hashtag wwg1wga

remember when Biden held huge rallies in the middle of the pandemic like Trump did? Yeah me neither, that's why arguing they'd be the same is nonsense. In fact, I remember Trump made fun of Biden for campaigning from the basement. Hilarious take that they'd have done the same re: COVID.

I commend you for changing course and choosing not to defend Trump any longer. Cheers man.

Here's another awesome one..... "Democrats would have done the same as Trump but I'm here trashing the Democrats and Defending Trump when they would have done the same thing like I said but I'm also not a Trump supporter"

I guess he's one of those trump supporters that isn't a "trump supporter" - literally here supporting trump. Do we take you literally or seriously Archie?

That trump spent months claiming it was the flu and downplaying it isn't my opinion. That Trump knew how contagious it was in Feb 2020 and told Bob Woodward that, and Bob has it on recording, isn't my opinion, and presidented otherwise, isn't my opinion. That you choose to come and defend that garbage is really something Arch, that is my opinion

I've decided I'm going to use the Archie method. Since we get to make up what a Democrat would have done if they were president, and that fantasy apparently carries some weight in discussions: If a Democrat were president, there would have been 3 cases of COVID in the US, just like there were only 3 cases of Ebola in the US. Just the facts. No opinions here.

Wrong not my opinion - just facts. Posted an article where trump turned down 100m Vx doses. Biden has bought 500m. Those are facts, not my opinion. What is opinion is claiming a Democrat would have done exactly what Trump did. That is an opinion.

Archie has argued both of these over the past week or so: 1) The economic numbers under Trump were trash b/c of Democrats shutting down the economy, and Trump didn't do that even though reporting totally says he did. 2) Even though the democrats shut down the economy (TM Archie) they would have done exactly the same as Trump (not shut down economy TM Archie) if they were president

Remember when Trump argued against widespread testing b/c it made the numbers look bad? Yeah, you don't get to just claim a Democrat would have done the same thing to relentlessly defend and make excuses for Trump.

He didn't lose you, he lost. It's a garbage argument and even he knows it. That's why he strategically ignores all real evidence showing him he's wrong, and literally creates fake "evidence" about what would have happened if a Democrat was president then. He's here literally arguing trump had no choices in the things trump did as president which is obviously a joke.

Yes, he developed a whole pandemic plan that the trump admin ignored.

You, in fact, are looking for anything to defend Trump, including looking at fake worlds where you literally make up how a Democrat would have handled COVID the exact same as Trump. If you're going to make accusations of grasping for straws, the least you could do is not do exactly what you're accusing others of. I answered the question last week quite extensively, and offered 3 answers already yesterday. I'm not surprised when your argument is "Dems would have done the same" and I post a report about how trump turned down 100m Vx doses and Biden actually purchased 500m doses that you'd go ahead and ignore the answer I provided. I'm not "looking for anything" - I'm looking at what he did as President during COVID - per the conversation we are having. You on the other hand are looking at fake presidents that in fake worlds in order to defend the real life disaster. Sweet choice champ.

Here's a hilarious one, Democrat would have hired Scott Atlas LMFAO What a great argument arch

This was another thing he shouldn't have done. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/trump-administration-passed-chance-lock-more-pfizer-vaccine-doses-n1250357 They also had leaked emails where they said they wanted people to get the virus. You don't get to roll up and act like that shit never happened just to try to be less wrong than normal on the internet. I guess if I was urinating in that wind, I'd make up a whole nother world where someone else did exactly the same shit as trump

Trump himself said it was the flu. Maybe if he hadn't done that and presidented as if that was true his numbers wouldn't have sucked. Luckily he has people like you to whitewash his presidency.

I'll keep it in the real world rather than the hypothetical you made up. Trump lost millions of jobs. A fact that seems to push you right into a fantasy world where Democrats would have done the same thing but sadly for you they didn't here in reality. Again, worst job losses in 100 years, and deadliest year ever. That's reality, not a hypothetical of convenience for losing politics fights on the internet. Everyone knows it didn't have to be that way. You do too. W and Obama both managed to not shit the bed in pandemics. Trump sucked.

I don't think there's much daylight between Republican leadership and Trump.... at least from the perspective of Republican leadership. I think it's very unlikely that they will diverge from Trump. This is up to either Trump to decide not to run, or voters to reject him. just my $.02

he could very easily be elected in 2024.

I'm quite sure the polling on Trump isn't predictive of trumps Performance in elections and I offer the last two elections as evidence

Lol Worst jobs pres in a century

That 30% number was the same number I was hearing before he went and got the second most votes for president in history. If polling is meant to predict election results, the accuracy in polling Trump has been lackluster at best.