Mr.TaterSalad

According to Football Outsiders the Giants defense is ranked 27th in terms of DVOA and their offense is only 15th. Yet somehow, they are 6-2 and on track to be a playoff team. The Jets have the 19th ranked offense and 9th ranked defense and are on track to make the playoffs. The Falcons have the 9th ranked offense and are 31st in defensive DVOA and are on track to win their division and make the playoffs. Why are Daboll, Saleh, and Smith finding success and Campbell isn't? They aren't trotting out units that are significantly more talented or better across the board than Campbell is. Their talent level isn't way better than ours. They're starting Daniel Jones, Marcus Mariotta, and Zac Wilson at QB for God sakes. Sure, the Jets defense is better than ours, but our offense is better than there's. Furthermore, the other thing that can't be judged in a vacuum is Brad Holmes' player acquisitions as a GM. You can point the finger at Holmes for bad draft picks like Levi and Melifonwu. You can blame him for drafting Jameson Williams over Jordan Davis. You can say he stood pat on defense and brought back the same collection of poor performers from the prior season. But you can't just say that's all Holmes' fault. Those moves are on Campbell too. Holmes didn't draft in a dark room, alone, by himself. Nor did he run free agency that way. He consulted with Dan Campbell, Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, and all the positional coaches, scouts, player personnel people. I'm sure that if Campbell and Glenn weren't happy with the defensive players they trotted out last year they would have had every opportunity to speak out and demand more be done to fix this defense and bring more talent in on that side of the ball.

I have used the word improvement all season long and during the preseason. I wanted to see improvement among individual players, position groups, and the coaching staff. I think we've seen that individually among some players. I certainly think the offense as a position group has improved when healthy and on the field together. Here in my mind are the players who have either somewhat or substantially improve and those that have regressed or not improved. Improved: Amon'Ra St. Brown, Jeff Okudah (substantially improved), Josh Reynolds, Kalif Raymond, Kerby Jospeh (a little bit), Malcolm Rodriguez, Penei Sewell Regressed: Alex Anzalone (was he any good to begin with), Amani Oruwariye (he's turned into an awful player), Charles Harris (a complete ghost), DeShon Elliott, Derek Barnes, Michael Brockers, Will Harris For all the guys I feel have improved and the offensive improvement that has happened, it simply hasn't been enough to bring this team success or make the coaching staff look good. The other problem that Campbell has is that you can't measure him in a vacuum, you have to compare him to his peers. Unfortunately for him, some of his rookie/2nd year coaching peers like Daboll, Saleh, Smith, all have better records than he does.

If the defense is the problem, and by in large it has been, then why not fire Aaron Glenn and only Aubrey Pleasant? I would argue that this firing was done as a scapegoat. Optically, if Campbell had fired Glenn that would look worse for him than firing a position coach. And if you fired both of the coordinators you brought in, that means the pressure is really on you to be the next man gone.

I'm guessing MAGA will say he was setup by the crooked FBI just like the white men who tried to kidnap Whitmer were setup by the FBI.

I think it also speaks to coaching and schematic adjustments coming out of the half that the staff makes. The Miami game is only one game, so it cannot be used to draw a hard and fast conclusion about Campbell and this staff as a whole. But it seemed like to me that Mike McDaniel and his staff made defensive adjustments and shut our offense down. They also made offense adjustments and picked it up offensively. It's on Campbell, Ben Johnson, and Aaron Glenn to counter and adjust back. They didn't yesterday. I sort of feel like that was the story of the 4th quarter against Minnesota too.

Who said I am dying on the hill? We're simply having a discussion about the Lions offense and coaching staff this season on a message board. It's on Campbell when his offense looks good one week and defense doesn't, then defense looks respectable and the offense gets blanked. Part of being a successful, well coached team is to put a good product out on the field on both sides of the ball, together, each week. We haven't seen a game yet where both the offense and defense looked good at the same time, in the same game. That's on Campbell. If another coach gets fired as a result of the poor performances, Lynn, Pleasant, whomever, that's on Campbell too since he hired them to begin with.

What if the bottom doesn't fall out to the point of 1-16. Is there a win total beyond 1 game where if we achieve less than that you believe Sheila will fire Campbell? I don't think Campbell is going anywhere, regardless of what happens. I'm still on board with him coming back next year myself. But being supportive of Campbell gets harder and harder as the weeks go by and the losses pile up.

Also there is a difference between scoring in the second half and scoring in the second half when you are consistently down in football games and having to claw your way back week after week. it isn't so much the scoring in the second half issue I had with Stafford and the Lions offense. Rather, it was constantly being down and having to try to come from behind win. Also, scoring when the other team is switching over to a soft zone style of coverage, not pressing at the line, and giving the offense more room to operate, hence the stat padding comments from many fans.

When they scored 0 points against Dallas and New England was the defense the issue?

We're 1-6 this year. In two of the six losses we didn't score a TD in the game at all. We haven't scored a TD in the second half of a game in the last 3 games. While I agree that the offense has played well/extremely well at times, stats like that can't be ignored or discounted under the guise of "well the offense has played well and it's not the problem." There are two halves of football and in 3 games in a row, we've failed to score TDs in the second half of a game. That is a problem.

I think Lynn was the scapegoat insofar as the offense was performing poorly, they deemed it to be all or mostly his fault, and he got fired as a result. Has the offense improved under Ben Johnson and Campbell? Absolutely it has. Is it where we want it to be though? No, not at all. This team, for all the points they have put up, has 0 TDs in the 2nd half in 3 of the last 4 games in October. You can't build a successful team or offense by not scoring at all in the 2nd half of games. That fault has to lay at someone's feet.

Campbell already scapegoated his OC last year with firing Anthony Lynn. Aaron Glenn got to pull his card this year with Aubrey Pleasant getting fired. I think we are real close to the "you better start improving and winning or else" phase of Campbell's tenure as Head Coach. If this defense still doesn't improve and Aaron Glenn has to get fired, that says a lot about Campbell.

Did Brian Daboll inherit a good team in New York? Did Robert Saleh inherit a good team in New York? Did Arthur Smith inherit a good team in Atlanta? I believe that Campbell did inherit a piss poor, terrible roster. I believe that this was a 2+ year rebuild. But the whole "Campbell inherited the worst roster in the league narrative" becomes less potent when you look around the league and see 3 first or second year coaches having significantly more success than Dan Campbell is having, with rosters that weren't expected to be any better than ours. In the case of Brian Daboll, his GM Joe Schoen is also in the first year of his job alongside Daboll.

What an incredible take down of Herschel Walker by this Pastor.

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Huge win for Lula da Silva and the people of Brazil. Also, an understated aspect of Lula winning is that this is a huge win for the rainforests of Brazil Bolsinaro was the worst environmental President on Earth for what he did to the rainforests in that country.

Let's say the Lions win 3 games this year again and not a single game on the road. Going 6-27-1 over two seasons, with no road wins is not just a sign of futility from the coach or broader organization. It is a troubling sign that your players aren't developing and improving under your leadership and your staff's leadership. If there is no growth on the field from individual players, position groups as a whole, and the entirety of a team, what's the point of keeping the coach around for more of the same? I'm not saying fire Campbell yet because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that we will see improvement from here on out. But going 6-27-1 with no road wins over two seasons is Rod Marinelli/Hue Jackson level of bad. It's really hard to justify keeping a guy at that point once the season is over.

Fredo Trump Jr. is the worst combination of being both dumb and repugnant.

The one other person that HAS TO BE FIRED if Campbell goes is Rod Wood. If Campbell does go there is no reason why the Team President who helped hire the last two failed head coaches should keep his job. Sheila has to fire Rod Wood if she's going to fire Campbell.

We're about to potentially be 1-7. If that isn't the wheels falling off, I don't know what is. How much more of a leash does Dan Campbell get? I've said all season and preseason that I wanted to see growth and improvement more than wins. While I still believe that, at some point though you have to start winning. If you're still sitting at 1 win and you're 1-7, 1-8, 1-9, and can't win a game on the road ever, the improvement argument holds less and less weight with every loss.

Should have been PI.

What a slow ass start by Michigan.

Young does more than just extend drives by scrambling, which he does. He also steps up in the pocket to get by the pass rush and deliver the ball to an open receiver on a developing play. One of the continuing narratives on Goff, as shared earlier from the tweet by MB, is that Goff takes the sack or misses the downfield shot because he drops back so far in the pocket. If Bryce Young were 2-3 inches taller he'd be the consensus #1 pick and #1 QB I think.

I think of all the harmful things that right wing media has done over the years from Rush Limbaugh to Fox News to Steve Bannon, it's the fact that the truth, honesty, facts, and integrity have no value in our political system anymore. If you tell a lie often enough then it becomes reality to the masses and the right wing media ecosphere and the people in it really understand it.