Mr.TaterSalad

First off, I said I'd consider offering a pick for him if he plays like he did against Cincinnati for the remainder of the season and cuts down on his INTs. Second off, I never said the Jets would trade Wilson, just that they would have a decision to make between White and Wilson if White played at a high level thru the rest of the year.

He can't win big games, so he's not beating OSU. Lately, he's not even competitive against OSU. Were someone to ask me to make a prediction for the score of the UM/OSU game I would probably guess something around the 51-27 or 54-36. It's going to be a total bloodbath and Harbaugh has given me nor any fan a reason to think differently.

How many waiver wire QBs have an 82% completion percentage and go 37-45 with 3 TDs and 2 INTS (one of which was a tipped ball by his receiver) in their debut against a good defense like that? If Mike White keeps up those kinds of numbers and cuts his INT rate down to 1 or fewer a game, he's going to be a commodity on the trade market. Now, if he goes out over the next 2-3-4 games and lays an egg on the field ala Matt Flynn, than this conversation is done and we move on. If he doesn't though, I think Holmes and Co. have to be at least pondering that option.

I do think there will be Dem midterm implosion if they don't get BBB, Infrastructure, and Voting Rights passed soon. They need to give their candidates red meat and ample time to campaign on a bold economic agenda and a list of accomplishments. I think Gottheimer and his gang of 3 or 4, Sinema and Manchin realize that finally and are coming around. I think once BBB and Infrastructure get passed and people slowly start to feel its effects over the next year the Biden and Dem approvals will rebound. I think it is going to be real hard for Republicans to run on repealing the Child Tax Credit, repealing lower prescription drug prices negotiated through Medicare, repealing penalties on drug companies who cheat their customers, etc. BBB won't be the political grenade that Obamacare was because it is so broad, wide and sweeping and has more immediate effects on people's lives that the ACA did. Much of the ACA didn't go into effect until 2-3-4 years after it was passed, where as BBB has programs that will begin to have an immediate impact on people's overall quality of life. I feel once BBB passes, as long as it isn't too watered down, and the coverage of Democratic in fighting stops, we'll be doing better. I do think the remaining items on the table that could hurt Dems are inflation and woke culture around policing. Inflation is obvious, prices are up, people feel squeezed financially, and the President and Dems in Congress get the blame. Defund is obviously different. I have finally come around to the idea that "Defund the Police" has far more negative effects to the Democratic brand than I previously thought. Where I live we had an election this year. For some anecdotal evidence, all the candidates who won are either Dem or Independent/Dem-leaning. All of the winning candidates were endorsed by the Police Department and the PD sent a mailer out to voters homes touting the candidates they endorsed when absentee ballots were mailed out. 3 of the 4 who won were also endorsed by the Fire Department and they sent a mailer out about it. Yes, people will except things like hiring a Social Worker to deal with domestic/family-related issues, they will except drug-addicted persons getting rehab instead of jail time, or having a Citizen Review Board to have greater police accountability. But public safety is still king among the issues and people want well funded police departments that are capable of producing quick response times when they call 911 for an emergency situation. They will not accept rhetoric about defunding or abolishing police. Even if the defund movements goal is largely to shift more money into public education, public and mental health, and not end policing as we know it, the average person doesn't processes "defund the police" that way. They hear that phrase and think no one is showing up when I call 911. I dislike Bill Clinton and James Carville, but I do believe they are still right in that "It's the Economy Stupid" and if Democrats stay away from rhetoric around wokeness that people feel controls their speech and defunding police departments and instead focus on a bold economic agenda that's in BBB, they will be able to be more successful in 2022.

Not Wilson for a 3rd, White. If he keeps this up to season's end, you have to kick the idea around seriously I think. If he is Matt Flynn and turns into a pumpkin after a game or two then of course you don't trade based on one game.

I get saying no on Wilson, but if Mike White keeps playing at a high level you wouldn't consider trading a 3rd or a 3rd+ and roll the dice on him? We'd need to see more than we saw from Matt Flynn back in the day, but if this production keeps up through season's end I think we have enough draft capital to roll the dice. If the Jets are insisting on a 1st or 2nd in return for White, then I'm out, but I'd be in on a 3rd or 3rd+ if this production level sustains.

Hard to believe it's been over a year since we lost the incredible Justin Townes-Earle. I've been diving deep into his catalogue of music a lot lately. The songwriter every songwriter should strive to be. The guys candle burned out too early but if the music he wrote was any judge, it burned bright as hell when he was here.

If Mike White keeps playing at a high level do you try and trade for either White or Zach Wilson if you're Brad Holmes?

It's not just where Hock was drafted, it's who was drafted after him and the team needs we had at the time and still have. We needed an edge rusher or someone who could get after the QB in the worst way and a LB who could cover in space. Brian Burns and Montez Sweat could have been that pass rusher we needed or Devin Bush that coverage LB.

Don't have to ask me twice. It was an awful pick then and an awful pick now. Brian Burns, Montez Sweat, Devin Bush and yeah, Ed Oliver, were guys that many of us were clamoring for on the board and across Lion fandom on the internet. I'd much rather have an edge/pass rusher like Burns or Sweat to build around than an average/above-average at best TE. The list of successful TEs taken outside the first round is long. In spite of what this organization seems to think, the position itself, is not one of the 5-6 most important on the field. Having an edge rusher who can get you double-digit sack totals and 30-40+ tackles like Burns and Sweat can is far more valuable than a TE who is going to get you 50-60 receptions, 750 yards and 2-4 TDs a season IMO. Furthermore, Hockenson was never this generational TE that the likes of Mel Kiper tried hyping him up to be prior to the draft. He was and is not Gronk 2.0. Even if you made Aaron Rodgers his QB instead of Goff I don't think he would be. He's a Heath Miller type of player at best and probably a Kyle Rudolph at worst. Watch a few Iowa football games and you can see he was very very good, but not generationally great.

We had two solid "for us" choices in Bernie and Warren and we went with the "less against us" choice in Joe.

You watched the trailer and discerned all that from it? Because I watched the trailer and thought it was about monsters that live in the woods and started going after people. The Village is a textbook bait and switch. It was advertised one way and you go into the movie expecting to see a horror flick and it delivers on it somewhat, until the end when it is all like "just kidding, this isn't actually a horror film." The trailer and the movie are not one in the same. One is false advertising and one is reality. I watched Robert Eggers A24 film The Witch, a Puritan folklore movie about a witch that lives in the woods. The movie was advertised as a horror movie. Guess what we saw in the movie, a ton of creepy scenes and a witch, actually several witches. We didn't watch a 1:20:00 movie about witches only to have the last 10 minutes be about something else entirely. And you know what, I was highly satisfied with The Witch and have watched it a half dozen times since. The Village to me would be like going to see The Witch and there isn't actually one single scene where the Witch actually appears in the movie and in the end, The Witch had nothing to do with the plot line. The Village was built up for months with trailer after trailer making it seem like it was an English folklore type horror movie about mysterious evil creatures or monsters that live in the woods and go after people. Except the movie was about none of that. Instead, the entire point of the movie was to create a big ruse at the end and swerve the audience. Um ok, you swerved us, but that doesn't mean the swerve was clever or good. I thought it was neither.

Why would you advertise the movie as a horror movie and then have it be something else if you weren't willfully trying to con someone. M Night Shyamalan is the movie version of a grifter. Both The Village and Lady in the Water are examples of his grifts. He and the movie studio sell the general public on the idea that they are buying a ticket to see a horror movie based on all the advertisements and then bait and switch in the movie. Hey, you thought you were going to see a horror film, just kidding, this movie is really something else. Imagine if you went to see Titanic and it ended up being a western, would you feel happy you just paid $10 for that ticket? That's part of Shyamalan's bait and switch grift.

I would have literally hauled off and punched M. Night Scamalan after watching The Village were he standing in front of me when I went and saw it in theaters. I felt so duped as a movie goer watching what I thought was going to be a solid horror movie only to be swerved in the last 10 minutes to find out it was all a big ruse and it was really a socio-phycological experiment. The Village to me is one of the worst movies of all time. Scamalan lost me after his Village con and I don't watch his movies any longer.

Did you follow all of the plot twists and who was supposed to be in what house? It finally occurred to me at the end of the movie that Emily never went to another house and we were likely watching the same Emily the entire time.

As mad as I am at Harbaugh and frustrated as I am about the game overall, I still think we got hosed on two key calls. This one below with Payton Thorne fumbling the football and the Reed catch that scraped the ground before he caught it. They called this a fumble on the field and had inconclusive evidence to overturn the call. This should have been left as a fumble call because you cannot conclusively tell when the ball came out versus when his leg/shin touched the ground. On the Reed "catch" I still think the laces of the football grazed the ground before he hauled it in. But I think the call below was worse and way more costly for Michigan.

There is bad and then 50 feet of s*** and then us today. The last time a remember a performance this bad by the Lions was during Patricia's first game on MNF against the Jets.

That's why I would want to get through 3/4/5/6 games first. If he's solid through a 5-6 game stretch as their starting QB I think it's worth seriously kicking the idea around. The difference between Matt Flynn and Mike White is the teams they were playing. Mike White is playing a good Bengals defense and Matt Flynn played us.

I would seriously consider trading a pick to the Jets backup QB for Mike White if he keeps going off like he did today. If White gets the chance to start on several more occasions, 3-4 games, and has performances like he did today against the Bengals, I'd be willing to trade for him and make him our new starting QB.

The Jets winning is great news for us. Another Jags and Texans wins would be solid as well. The more 1 win teams that get victories the better our chances become for securing that #1 overall pick.

I said at the start of the season that I wasn't going to be hard or overly critical on Campbell or this regime because of how new everyone was and how awful this roster was. That said, Campbell has made a number of troubling coaching mistakes and outright blunders. Anyone beginning to question his coaching IQ isn't really wrong because he hasn't given fans a whole lot of reason to think otherwise.

He has a zero 0% chance of winning out because he will get punked by Ryan Day and Ohio State. The guy should be relieved of his job tomorrow but I doubt that happens.

Most could except Harbaugh, he'd find a way to lose