kdog

Harris' experience in dealing with Rodriguez and his agent makes me think he doesn't to have anything to do with him. I doubt they have any interest in bringing him back at age 31. Chalk it up to another Avila failure and move on.

ESPN:

yes but keeping E-rod on your roster carries risk with injury and the contract. Holding the line has a downside...and Harris is eating it now.

It's possible that Nightengale and the Pope had accurate sourcing at the time of their tweets. Then things unraveled outside of their purview. But rumors and trades is an entire industry on its own. People need something to talk about on talk shows and podcasts every day. And I need content for my own entertainment. I am a consumer of takes...helps me get through the drudgery of a work day.

There is implicit risk with keeping Erod. He is injury prone and pitching for the Tigers adds the possiblity that we might be on the hook for that contract if he gets hurt again. Can we at least acknowledge the possiblility that Harris misread the market by setting a high price and only accepting the Dodgers offer as an option? I will own up to the fact that I am very cynical about all Detroit rebuilds. We have seen missteps early in their tenures that foreshadowed that the guy didn't know what he was doing. I'm still not even sure the Lions will be good until I see a proof of concept.

But then some people(like me) gave deference to Bob Quinn because we believed he was competent.

How can you tell when they have one good hitter?

Henning: Major rookie mistake by Scott Harris. So, learn from it, and not just about trade-deadline screw-ups: He needs to view the Tigers and Detroit as something other than a clinical commodity. It's a baseball audience. An original one. He's so detached, so distant, it's embarrassing.

I’ll wait to hear Harris’s explanation on erod. This is just profoundly disappointing in terms of asset management.

40+ FV Prospects 6. Hao-Yu Lee, 2B Video Signed: International Signing Period, 2021 from Taiwan (PHI) Age 20.2 Height 5′ 9″ Weight 190 Bat / Thr R / R FV 40+ Tool Grades (Present/Future) Hit Raw Power Game Power Run Fielding Throw 35/45 45/55 30/55 40/30 30/40 50 The Phillies are quite active in the Pacific Rim and tend to net interesting prospects for bonuses in the mid-six figures. Lee is the best of the recent contingent, a well-rounded, bat-first second base prospect who is coming off of a first full professional season during which he slashed .284/.386/.438 with nine home runs in 350 plate appearances, with the bulk of his games coming with Low-A Clearwater. Lee is a plate-crowding bucket strider looking to pull. His hands have exciting life, and he generates authoritative pull power for a such a young hitter. His track record of high-contact hitting dates back to his amateur days and has continued as a pro, where his contact rates (83% in-zone, 75% overall) were close to big league average even though his swing looks like it’s compromising his plate coverage. Whether such a pull-oriented approach to contact will be sustainable or leave Lee vulnerable on the outer half of the plate against upper-level arms we just won’t know until he faces them. For now, his contact and chase rates are a better-than-average mix. There’s a gap between scouts’ evaluations of Lee’s raw power during the spring of 2023 and what his measureable power output was in 2022. That might be because he missed six weeks in the middle of last season with a wrist fracture, which often causes power to return on a delay. Lee’s a thicker guy and doesn’t have deep-career power projection, but it’s reasonable to expect to see an uptick in 2023 as he gets further away from that fracture, and eyeball reports from the Carpenter Complex suggest that’s the case. Even though his body is maxed, Lee is only 20 and might come into another half grade of pop just through maturity. For a middle infielder, an average (or slightly above) hit and power combination would profile in any everyday role. Lee has played shortstop, second and third base. Especially with the death of the shift, it’s much more likely that an athlete with his build ends up at third base. His range already isn’t the best, but he bends well and has above-average hands and actions. Lee is young enough that it’s possible he may yet cut some weight to give himself a better chance of playing a more complete second base, the position where his bat has the best chance of profiling in an everyday role.

6 game suspension will be an issue. He needs real game reps:

The Tigers need pitching in their system...they have no depth and very few prospects.

Braves Top Prospects Rk Name Age Highest Level Position ETA FV 1 AJ Smith-Shawver 20.4 A+ SP 2025 45+ 2 JR Ritchie 19.8 A SP 2026 45+ 3 Dylan Dodd 24.9 MLB SP 2023 45 4 Spencer Schwellenbach 22.9 A SP 2025 45 5 Jared Shuster 24.7 MLB SP 2023 45 6 Owen Murphy 19.6 A SP 2026 45 7 Luis Guanipa 17.3 R CF 2027 45 8 Roddery Muñoz 23.0 AAA SIRP 2023 40+ 9 Ignacio Alvarez 20.0 A+ 3B 2025 40+ 10 Diego Benitez 18.4 R 3B 2027 40+

The pope chimes in :

lol that is the mid market franchise dream. But there's a probably a reason that they are the only franchise that has been able to do it. Even now, they might be headed for a few bad seasons because of some of bad personnel decisions.

You build for sustained success. If you are good enough and are lucky with injuries, your team will eventually get a legit title shot in the playoffs. I would take the Rays and other good organizations trajectory vs the 2015 Royals.

Brieske will open; Wentz will be the second guy. Do something outside this afternoon lol.

We need to get Haase going

He uses RISP and RBI stats to say that Baez is performing better than Vierling lol.

Rental prices have changed since 2014 when E-Rod was traded.

I still need to see the path from this type of season to a decent team. As we have seen, development of young players is not linear. People getting emotional about the Baez disaster is fine. As far as the Tigers not making fringe roster moves, it's pretty clear they care that much about winning each individual game.

Mock trade from Fangraphs: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/lets-make-some-deals-2023-trade-deadline-edition/