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You only bring guys in from the outside who will be a possible contributor in '23 and '24. They have enough filler pitching to get through the rest of this season. Winning doesn't matter and they should cycle through every possible arm within the org first.

I don't know if Manning will ever be good. But if he's healthy, he has to make as many starts as possible in Detroit in the next 70 games.

A four page thread on Dallas Keuchel...#ThanksChris #extendAl

the all star break did not change the first inning offense lol

If it was any organization, I would trust them on a pitcher injury.

Game 1 - Skubal vs Logue Game 2 - Hill vs Montas

Tigers and Keuchel are finished. Lock the thread.

What are we arguing about? Keuchel is finished.

Harold and Kody play 1st, Short becomes the utility man.

Fire Avila and hire a baseball executive who can properly execute the needed trades and signings to build a competent major league roster. Do not promote from within. I am willing to let Garko and his new development team work on the farm system. We have seen a few rays of sunshine down there with legacy prospects.

I don't have a detnews sub but Wojo has called for Avila's firing.

Tigers are taking Jung per Longenhagen at Fangraphs. Cody confirms.

From Petzold: This is where the complexity arrives. Significant changes — whether in-season or during the offseason — could be necessary for Torkelson to thrive at the highest level. His mechanics aren't allowing him to adjust and attack pitches he's supposed to crush. Torkelson too often ends up in a weak position when his front foot hits the ground, a product of inconsistent timing. He either whiffs or doesn't hit the ball hard enough, even when the pitch travels over the heart of the plate. Torkelson, though, doesn't seem willing to budge, or at least he hasn't so far in his 83-game MLB career. After all, it wasn't too long ago scouts raved about his pure swing at the college level. But this isn't college ball. "It's more mindset than mechanics," Torkelson said May 18 in St. Petersburg. "My swing is my swing." Are we sure that Tork is willing to make changes?

"The staffing question is fair because we're all responsible," A.J. Hinch said. "As coaches, we have to challenge ourselves to continually try to reach these guys in different ways and get the best performance out of them that we can."

A.J. Hinch today, talking about the second half: "We need to look at how we can evolve better as an organization, as a team, as a coaching staff. We can't be satisfied that we're trying hard. This is a results-oriented business, and we are not getting the results that we expect." He is in it now.

A.J. Hinch: "I told Tork it could be 10 days, it could be two weeks, could be a month. It doesn't matter how long it takes to get him back to feeling good."

Woodbery: There will be a flurry of other transactions coming soon, including Torkelson's replacement, who is being notified. RHP Will Vest will be going on the paternity list. RHP Jose Cisnero, currently on bereavement list, is expected to return for doubleheader in Oakland on Thursday.

A.J. Hinch: "We a have plan in place to get him some at-bats and get him back to being the offensive force that we know he’s gonna be. It’s much less spotlight to do it in Triple A than it is to continue to do this in the big leagues."