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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Missing out on Sarr sucks, but after #1 it's all kind of the same. We're essentially paying #5 pick money for a #2 pick. Same tier of player and mocks have all of these players going at various spots. There is no consensus. You also have to look at who's in front of us. We could very well be looking at both Risacher and Matas both being available. 2 guys that you could argue we'd have been looking at if we were at #2-#4 as well. I'm also going to give some serious consideration to Shepperd if he's there. Those shooting and defensive numbers are no joke. The guy's a 55/52/83 shooter with 3.5 stocks per game, which is absolutely nuts. He's also a good secondary playmaker. Yea, he's short and that's going to cause some matchup problem, but I'll take TJ McConnell with JJ Reddick's shooting any day. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
By the way, Matas Buzelis is represented by Tellem. Book it. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
Pistons have moved down in the lottery 9 times. They moved up once, by one spot, to get Cade. We also fell from 1 to 5 twice in a row and no team has ever done that. Spurs have moved up 5 times. They've never moved down. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
I mean, we all knew the Spurs were moving up. After they were given Wemby last year the league needs to make sure he becomes the face of the league as fast as possible and you can’t do that on a bad team. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
So he was interested in the job (which would be a promotion) and the Pistons were interested in interviewing him, but the Bucks said "no". That's a sure sign of a place you don't want to work. When they actively try to stunt your career for their own gains, rather than encouraging you to fulfill your career journey even if it means an opportunity elsewhere. Not a company I'd want to work for. -
Say what you will about Mitchell, the criticisms are all fair, but he's been absolutely carrying the Cavs this offseason, even on a bum knee. He's been making some absolute highlight reel shots left and right.
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
It seemed much more likely they would move KAT when everyone thought they would flame out in the playoffs. The way they're playing now, they could very well win it all. -
Wow. What a joke. Silver is so soft.
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
We can now trade a future first farther out. Also, if we’re taking on KAT’s contract we’re the ones helping the TWolves. That’s a “sin contract” and you usually get assets back for that rather than giving all the assets away. I understand there would be other suitors, but not all of them can absorb the amount of cap we can. -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
I don't love it but I don't hate it when compared to the other stars that might get traded (Lavine, Ingram, etc). Yes, he's soft as hell, but that's less of an issue now that he plays mostly PF instead of Center. He'd also be a really nice spacing fit next Cade. His defense has improved a lot, but then again I'm not sure he'll give that kind of effort on a losing team. Not sure I'd burn all the cap for it, but maybe a large portion of it. However much the TWolves need to get just under that second apron. You need the rest of that money to make a couple more moves. Bring in Claxton and make a hard push, including Ivey/Duren and a future first to get Mikal. Cade/Sasser? Mikal/Grimes Tech/Ausar KAT/Stew Claxton/Stew -
20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
It's funny, I always hear about the guys in the draft who are "definitely a Heat guy" and I think, "well, why not just draft that guy?" It happened with Bam, Jovic to some extent, Jaquez, and now I'm hearing Devin Carter. 3 and D combo guard who is tough as nails, gets compared to Bruce Brown, and who's in the Heat mold? Sounds like a better fit next to Cade than Ivey already. He's 6'3" with a 6'7" wingspan, so yes, one of Ivey/Sasser/Grimes has to get moved, but let's be honest, we're all talking about doing that already. Maybe test the waters on Jeremy Grant since Portland should want to get off that contract they signed before Lillard left. Do a pick swap, take on Jeremy's contract, send over Fournier's expiring, and maybe a young prospect like Sasser or Grimes. Portland gets a high pick to build alongside Scoot and they get free of Grant's money. Pistons add a starting caliber PF who can shoot and defend as well as a 22 year old 3 and D guard who can play next to Cade (or off the bench if you keep Ivey). You still have Ivey/Duren as trade assets along with about 40M in free money to make trades and/or go after free agents such as Claxton/Hartenstein, Trent Jr, Oubre, etc. Just spit-balling here because who knows what Portland wants to do with Jeremy, but Omari and Bryce discussed a trade for Grant where we gave up even less because it's essentially a "sin contract" right now. -
Did Embiid get suspended, or even ejected, for grabbing Robinson's ankles in a far more dangerous play? Nope. NBA is reluctant to suspend stars in the playoffs unless they're heavy repeat offenders (Draymond).
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You're both right. You need to hit on your top picks and you also need to find great complimentary players late in the draft. Minnesota has done both. So has OKC and Orlando. Pistons probably hit with Cade, but they've done little else.
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Wouldn't be surprised if he had received some votes if Monty hadn't messed with him. Dude was averaging over 2.5 Stocks in October and November before Monty benched him and reduced his minutes drastically. At that time he was getting national recognition as 3rd place for Rookie of the Year.
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Now that Orlando is out can we add Hammond back to the interview list? Haven't heard his name since that initial post from JEIII.
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Can we talk about how overrated Garland is? Also, Mobley doesn’t impress me without Allen next to him Mitchell carrying this team with 50 pts on a bum knee. I don’t really care who gets the honor of being swept by Boston, but I just want Orlando to lose already so we can interview John Hammond.
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You and me both.
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And yet the Pistons still have Weaver and Williams.
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I don't know, when you start assaulting fans - twice in one incident - that's a major line you've crossed. Very different from choking out a fellow employee (although I think Draymond should've been suspended for the entire season for that). I have to imagine that the league still has PTSD from the Malice at the Palace. If I'm Silver I set an example an suspend him for the entire next season.
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At some point apologies don't cut it. When it's the same person, acting the same way, over and over again apologies mean absolutely nothing and further actions are required.
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
The PoBO (or HoBO as they're calling it now) is being brought in to fire people so Tom doesn't have to do it. That's my opinion, but it makes sense from what we know of Gores. One of Weaver or Monty will be gone. I'm assuming it's Monty because the HoBO will probably need Weaver's research for this draft since it will be so late by then. As far as those trades, I feel like that article is the same every year. I'm not sure I trust the beat writers to answer for the organizations, certainly not if I'm judging by our beat writers who have no clue. Some GM out there had Ivey and/or Duren high on their big board and thinks they can be a star. I just have to hope that the HoBO can find that GM and that he has something we want in return. It's part of the reason we need to test the market now, because most of their value is still riding on them as prospects - that mystique diminishes slightly with every game they play. Either way, you can't just roll back the same team that won 14 games (plus Tobias) and expect it to be better. I think even Gores can see that and I expect he's been embarrassed enough this season that he's going to be demanding major changes. My only hope is that it doesn't swing too hard the other way and we wind up with another Blake situation (Lavine or Ingram with the 4 year 205M extension he's going to want). -
How do the rest of them let that happen and not call him out on it? Pat Bev is such a piece of garbage. Another bully, just like Draymond.
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Me too.
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Love seeing a Carlisle team pickup full court on defense again. Also, if you’re curious about the .5 second offense we never ran, watch Indy. Pass, shoot, drive, or kick without hesitation, holding the ball, and over dribbling.
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20234-24 14-68. Now what? (The 2024 Offseason thread)
Betrayer replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Pistons
The JEIII method - just name everyone you can possibly think of so you have a better shot at taking a victory lap later. How many names has rattled off so far? Seven?