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I think you are overestimating your ability to assess talent. We don't know for sure. What if, for example, Stroud blows up and dominates against Georgia and Michigan in the playoff? What if someone like Levis or Richardson is the one Holmes likes and available with the Lions pick? Or what if Holmes goes defense with the Rams pick, but thinks it is worth trading up to get Stroud/Levis/Richardson with one or more of his extra picks? Or if he sees a later round pick that really stands out to him? It doesn't have to be with the Rams pick for this to happen. I trust Holmes to evaluate much more than myself or anyone else on this board as he has earned it in his time here and with the Rams. If Holmes doesn't see any of them worthy and commits to Goff, I trust him also.

And we (or at least I) am not saying Goff can't be the future QB. I am just saying if Holmes sees a guy that he believes gives the best chance to win in 2024, he should draft him. And yes, the rookie deal is a significant factor as while you will eventually have to pay them, for 4-5 years (3-4 if they sit in 2023) you have them at a much lower salary and can use that money to fill out the team. That $20-40 million/yr difference can easily be the difference between a super bowl contender and a playoff contender for each of those 3-4 years. If Goff continues to perform and is the QB of the future, he will likely be getting $30-40 million/year in 2024. He may be worth it. But if Holmes believes one of the current crop of QB's can be as good or better with the solid OL and weapons, I definitely would trust him to take them.

Not necessarily. McVay may have put a younger Goff in position to succeed, but then pushed him/demanded more from him than he was able to develop into and so Goff didn't perform as well. We are definitely seeing what coaching that discovers and builds around what players can do does for a team as well as those individual players success. The more talent they have at all positions, the more ways they can win. Certain positions are harder to find improvements on than others, whether it be in the draft or the cost in free agency. Holmes has done a great job in evaluating players in the draft and I fully trust him to make that decision. And while I 100% agree that Holmes wanted Goff in the Stafford trade, in no way do I think he wouldn't pick a QB if he thought that QB gave the team the best chance to win in 2024. If he doesn't, he will wait until he finds that player.

Stafford was dealing with an injury all preseason and supposedly during the season. But again, it isn't whether Goff has been good. He has been. It is if Holmes thinks there is a QB that is likely to give the team a better chance to win for 2024 on a rookie contract or not. If he does, he better take him. If he doesn't, he better not waste a pick on one.

I think everyone who has brought up the possibility of drafting a QB agrees with this.

I don't think anyone is saying Goff is the problem. I think most are saying if Holmes thinks there is a QB in the draft that can be better than Goff in 2024 and on a rookie contract so he can spend the $ elsewhere, he should do it. If he doesn't, he shouldn't and Goff is just fine. Goff has played great and took away the absolute need to draft a QB. But if Holmes believes one of the guys available is the right one, he should definitely take him.

This is my thought but I completely trust Holmes. I have no doubt as things stand now that Goff is the QB for 2023. I also have think Goff has taken any trade for a QB like Lamar off the table. The question is a draft pick for the reasons you say and that is where I trust Holmes decision.

I don't think anyone is saying Holmes should reach for a QB. Only that if he believes in one who is available, now is the perfect time to take him with the extra high pick and the ability to have that player sit behind Goff for a year. If Holmes doesn't believe in anyone, then he definitely shouldn't reach for one. Either way, I firmly believe Goff will be the starter in 2023. The question for me is will his backup be his future cheaper successor, or will that person be picked up down the road longer.

I'm here 100%. I trust Holmes to make the decision. If Stroud or Levis is the guy, they have the ability to sit for a year and step in in 2024 and free up a bunch of cap space. (It also would give us a higher upside backup in 2023 in case Goff went down.) If Holmes doesn't believe in them, then load up the defense. Either way, Holmes has earned my trust so far.

Joe is gone. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/braves-acquire-joe-jimenez-from-tigers.html

Maybe not 🤣

Ohio Sate 42 Michigan 17

So in the last 33 years we’ve non-tendered 38 players. 7 (18 pct) of them were this year

And Day for some reason kept running WR screens that went nowhere when the chunk passes were there all game. Day’s first half play calling left a lot to be desired IMO.

Yes, that is a big clarification. As a hitter I have a hard time saying anyone but Cobb and maybe Greenberg.

Players are removed from the 60 day IL at some point after the season can't be put back on until sometime around spring training - in other words, they will count against the 40 man for the Rule 5 status. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/why-isnt-the-60-day-dl-year-round/

They already would make more money by joining the Big 10. I think it’s inevitable they do, the question is when.

see above.. Today was supposedly much better for Okudah and the rest.

P Meadows also could also be close. Colt Keith likely would have been at AA if not for his injury. Most of the other guys that were due to be moved up were about 2 weeks ago when this years draft picks joined.

I was only 9 at the time, but was at the Double Header when they retired Greenberg and Gehringer’s numbers. How I wish I had kept the poster they gave out rather than hanging it in my “fort”.

ND does have permanent lighting.

Agree completely as is the risk of getting COVID or another virus/illness. Each person has their own risks they are willing to take. I don't want to get this into the political forum, was just responding to the wishing ill to teams/players that chose not to get the vaccine when we don't know what reasons they may have for it and they know the consequences it has on them and their teams.

Not to get into this too much, but some of us had people we know experience confirmed vax effects. My aunt got blood clots within a week that was confirmed to the vax. My uncle had the same. My mother's cousin suffered paralysis that he still hasn't recovered from over a year later and may never come back within days of getting the vax so he could go on a mission trip. All of those were confirmed by the doctors directly related to the vax. Also, my best friend from high school with no known heart issues had a heart attack at age 47 within a month of getting the shot. Then in June 2021, my mentor and partner in one business died of a heart attack a month after getting the vax at age 60 with no previous conditions. Those 2 were not confirmed to be caused by the vaccination. My point is, people have various reasons for not getting the vaccination and the science definitely isn't settled on it in either way. There are consequences for not getting it, but I will never wish ill will on anyone for either not getting it or getting it.

Here’s are just a couple that says he may end up at 1b. https://lastwordonsports.com/baseball/2019/05/24/riley-greene-2019-mlb-draft-profile/ https://www.fishstripes.com/2019/5/28/18640927/2019-mlb-draft-prospects-florida-gators-baseball-commit-riley-greene-scouting-report-highlights

I heard a number of people saying he was likely below average in a corner and some were projecting him as a DH