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And I think the draft pick was a very large factor against Chapman who had an awful year last year after the first month or so.

Maybe they are looking to extend Decker for a year as part of it? The rolling over definitely makes sense also. It definitely gives them flexibility.

What they did though, is give them a bit of an out in 2026 if things would fall apart as even though they would have a dead money hit of over $63 million, it is still less than his cap number and could be spread over 2 years. It leaves a bit more flexibility in a worst case scenario and they have options to lower the hit if things continue to go well.

Yeah they can definitely add void years and switch his 2026 salary to bonus if they want as well.

So assuming they added a void year, the signing bonus allocation would be just over $12 mil per year (this year, the 4 year extension and the void year) so if they need to move on him after year 3, there would be 24.3 mil in SB allocation left plus it appears $5 mil in guaranteed $ so a total of around $29 million dead money that could be spread over 2 years-very manageable. If they didn’t add a void year, the annual bonus allocation goes up to $14.6 million which means the dead money would be left after year 3 of the extension (4years from now) would be $19.6 million (assuming $5 million of the last year is guaranteed to get to the total $170 guaranteed) Obviously he may be restructured throughout which may affect the ending cap hit, but it could be very manageable at the end. He will also still only be Cousin’s age in 6 years to it may be extended again.

From pipeline’s write up on Jung That’s if he sticks at second base. Jung was a surprise Rawlings Minor League Gold Glove winner given his pre-Draft reputation, but he impressed Tigers officials and Minor League managers with his ability to handle what’s hit to him with his good hands. However, his lack of range limits his defensive ceiling up the middle, and his trial at third coincided with Colt Keith getting looks at the keystone. Jung’s offensive ability is too good to ignore, and should he keep hitting the right benchmarks, he'll remain valuable in the lineup regardless of his defensive spot.

One of the reasons they moved him to 3rd was his lack of range-don’t think Short is an option at all.

Hey, he is on pace for 50 doubles…and obviously 0 homers. 🤦🏻

Here would be a sample deal to show what MB is saying. Goff currently has a cap hit of $32.3 mil for 2024 with 22.3 in salary, 5 mil roster bonus and 5 mil prorated signing bonus. A proposed 4 year $200 mil extension with $90 mil signing bonus and $125 mil guaranteed new money could look like something like this. If they add a void year, the signing bonus would get spread over 6 years - current 2024, 4 year extension, plus the 1 void year. So the signing bonus allocation would be $15 mil per year. 2024: convert $15 mil of his $27.3 mil salary/roster bonus to new signing bonus. Cap hit would be $12.3 mil salary, $5 mil from previous signing bonus + $15 mil new signing bonus allocation for total cap hit of $32.3 mil - identical to current. 2025: Fully guaranteed salary of $15 mil + $15 mil signing bonus allocation for cap hit of $30 mil 2026: Fully guaranteed salary of $20 mil + $15 mil signing bonus allocation for cap hit of $35 mil 2027: Salary of $35 mil ($15 mil fully guaranteed - gets to the $125mil guaranteed new money) + $15 mil signing bonus allocation for cap hit of $50 mil 2028: Salary of $40 mil + signing bonus allocation for cap hit of $55 mil 2029 void year: signing bonus allocation of $15 mil for cap hit of $15 mil So proposed cap hits of $32.3 mil in 2024 (identical to current), $30 mil in 2025, $35 mil in 2026 - almost an identical average for those 3 years as his 2024 hit. Obviously they would have roster bonus'/other ways of adjusting the hits if they wanted more cap space in certain years, but this would also allow them to get out of the deal after 2026 if they had to for a dead money hit of $60 million which is $10 million more than what his 2027 cap number would be if they kept him, or they could spread it over 2 years and free up $20 million in 2027, $25 mil in 2028, and $15 mil in 2029. If they cut him after 2027, they would have a dead money hit of $30 mil which if they didn't spread it over 2 years, would save them $25 mil on the cap in 2028 and $15 mil in 2029. - so no major pill like the Hurts deal. This is just a lot to say/show that a 4 yr $200 mil extension can simply be structured to not cripple the cap. The team would have many other roster bonuses/etc to further manipulate the cap numbers besides this.

I think Cousin's deal shows that he would likely get at least around 4 yrs $200 mil on the open market. I definitely don't want them to go crazy, but IMO he has earned around that and whenever he signs, his first 2 years will likely be at a similar or lower cap hit than he has had the last 2 seasons. It would be the last couple years where the cap hit would increase, but by then the cap will be significantly higher as well.

Yes, we are in Florida and got the notice from Xfinity also. Fortunately we can watch Tiger games on MLBTV except when they are in Tampa.

How about this: All Pro: 100% Pro Bowl: 95% Starter on playoff caliber team: 90% Starter on team like the 2021 Lions/ solid rotational player currently 80% Special Teams contributer/still on roster contributing10-25% of snaps: 70% Still on roster, barely contributing: 60% Contributed some over years, but not on current roster: 50% Not in Football: F Round bonus: Round 1: 0% Round 2: 5% Round 3: 10% Round 4: 15% Round 5: 20% Round 6: 25% Round 7: 30%, FA: 35% So 2021: Sewell: 100% + 0 bonus = 100% Levi: 60% + 5% bonus = 65% Aim: 95% + 10% = 105% Iffy: 80% + 15% = 95% St Brown: 100% + 20% = 120% Barnes: 80% + 20% = 100% Jefferson: 50% + 35% = 85% Wright: 80% + 35% =115% Jacobs: 70% + 35% = 105% Total 890%/9 = 98.89% Definitely and A to A+

I don't think they will need to tag Decker. He has already said he would love to do a deal and knows others need paid. I also think there are other options at RT for a year if you would lose Decker and Sordsdal/Manu aren't ready. I definitely don't see them signing him long term unless he takes a reasonable amount below what he could get on the market and they are only locked in for 2 more years. Again, Decker's comments indicate that could happen, but I don't see him being franchised at all. Also, they are in a completely different situation now than they were in 2022. Even if they were 6-1 then, they knew they were not a championship calibar team. They know they are now.

I'd be surprised if they used it as the only compensation you would get would be the normal comp pick formula for lost FA's and with drafting Wingo I think the goal is to develop a more cost effective option long term. I could see them paying McNeil for a year at the Franchise Tag #, but don't know they want to go long term at $25 mil +/yr that he would likely get on the market if he puts up another Pro Bowl caliber season. Not that they don't like him, or he won't deserve it, just you can only pay so many guys top $. Definitely the 1 problem with drafting so many guys that hit. Obvious positive is, if you keep doing that, you can pay the guys you have to pay and keep bringing in/developing young guys to take the other's spots when they get too expensive.

If he plays worth deserving it and they want, they can always franchise him next year and then trade him.

2 All Pro players, 3 Pro Bowlers, 5 Starter/significant rotational players, everyone still on the team that should have won the NFC Championship game and the don’t get a straight A or A plus? so if St Brown was just a starter, but Levi was a significant rotational guy they would have gotten an A? LOL

There are still veteran FAs also

And the Vikings have now traded 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round 2025 picks

Yeah, we had a great starting 5 the vast majority of the playoff run. It was the bullpen that was unpredictable.

Actually the cost is now $500k more for the Lions to cut him and he gets the $500k now that he wouldn’t otherwise.

The NFLPA doesn’t say anything because it’s common practice and the player would rather take the pay cut rather than be cut, not likely find a better contract and have to move. if the player thinks they can get a better situation, they refuse the pay cut and are released. Cominsky also got an extra $500k of his contract guaranteed and paid right away as a bonus.

The bears had the most cap room and were cutting players.

Not sure- how many have they released? You hear of teams asking guys to take ay cuts all the time and if they don’t, they cut them. It isn’t a Lions only thing.

Wait, the 49ers asked him to take a pay cut? I thought only the Lions did that.