AlaskanTigersFan

Lets go Jack! Increase that trade value!

Heres some floated rumors: https://www.mlb.com/news/jack-flaherty-rumors - Flaherty for Norby and Bradfield (BAL) or Flaherty for Dalton Rushing and Noah Miller (LAD) I'd take Baltimore's deal in heartbeat.

Just curious on thought process. They traded more for 1 year of Burnes....

I dunno if you're legit saying that or trying to get a jab in. Kwan - .891 Fry - .860 Ramirez - .835 Naylor .792 (Close enough which I pointed out in previous post to be considered for argument sake). Even without Naylor, 30% of your lineup fits the criteria......

That's not 100% accurate. I looked up Cleveland and they have three guys. Plus, I also consider guys .790 to be close enough to .800 for arugment sake. I see what you're saying here. But https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/stats/_/name/cle/table/batting/sort/OPS/dir/desc shows three players not two. SO I'm not 100% sure how accurate that is. https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/stats/_/name/bos/table/batting/sort/OPS/dir/desc - Red sox have 6, that shows they have two. Just another example. (Thank you for looking that up though)

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying OBJECTIVELY that a team without at least three .800 OPS hitters will MOST LIKELY NOT win the World Series. It can be done, sure. Any team can get hot if they get in to the playoffs. The players playing in MLB are obviously good if they are in the MLB. What I'm saying is, we can sit here all day and say we're "Close" to getting in the playoffs or we can use our assets now and DRASTICALLY IMPROVE our chances to get to three+ .800 players who OBJECTIVELY will GIVE US a BETTER chance at actually winning the thing.... If you can honestly sit here and tell me that the Tigers will beat the Phillies, Dodgers, Yankees, Orioles, and Cleveland then I'll shut up. But we have the chance here to drastically improve our team in the near future. Going for it this year will be setting us up for failure in the years to come. They can get so much for Flaherty and Skubal right now that they can add three possibly four position players of first division calibur (.800+ OPS). Then you Sign one or two pitchers in Free Agency or trade for one to replace Skubal. Take the Moneyball approach with Skubal. Can you replace him directly? No. But can you sign two #2 pitchers in FA to make up for him along with four first division players in your lineup? Yes. (It's been proven numerous times that teams that don't have cy young candidates leading their rotation can win a WS). Or if an Ace does hit FA, then you pay for him. Hell Corbin Burnes will be a FA. Trade Skubal, and use MONEY from one of the richest owners in Baseball to sign Burnes. Burnes and Jobe is a nice 1-2. All I'm saying is our lineup is not WS calibur. I think if you can step back and actually look at it, you will see that. We all like this team. But take the subjective look out of it and look at things objectively. If we buy or stand pat, we are Al Avila 2.0. We will be stuck in this endless loop of mediocrity purgatory. The time is NOW to get better. And you get better by trading Skubal and Flaherty for 3-4 guys who will be in the lineup for the next decade.

When you said that LAD, Phillies and Orioles all have 4+ .800 hitters.... That's what I'm saying you proved. Those 3 are by far the leaders in odds of winning the World Series. I wasn't referring to you on the 2nd part......

And who is most likely going to win the World Series? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. Thank you for proving my point Casimir. And by the way, it doesn't even need to be 4 or 5. 3-4 should suffice. But I'd wager anything that no team has won the WS in the last 30 years w/o at least 3 hitters above .800 OPS. For all you internet sleuths out there, go for it. I'd be curious on that.

Avila hung on to players when he coulda sold. Set us back bigtime. Fulmer, Boyd, Kinsler. Castellanos are all examples. I don't want Skubal to be a Harris victim

I'm just saying the Tigers are nowhere near a true playoff contender team..... Until we have 4-5 players consistently above .800, its all pretend. The offense isn't there, behind Skubal and Flaherty, the SP isn't there. We are still 2-3 years away from being serious contenders. Now's the time to see for that window. Avila screwed us by not committing to a full rebuild sooner. This is called MLB purgatory.... Only way to get out of it, is to do a rebuild correctly. Move Flaherty AND Skubal now to quit this loop of endlessness.

She couldn't do much worse than Javy....

Please name anyone else besides Greene, Keith and MAYBE Malloy who'd be starting on a playoff caliber team? I dunno who you like, but if you like last place, you get a gold star...... (No disprespect meant). But our team sucks bro and we're lucky af to be where we are. We have ONE batter with an OPS above .800. Come on guys, get back to reality. Unless we have five or six of these guys, we are going to be sucking as much as the chick in the dress on woodward.... Lets get real.

If they ever want to get out of stagnant purgatory, they better be saying screw you to the fans..... Otherwise we are still 5-6 years from sniffing the playoffs....

It's actually a little ways from Tampa. But where it's located, it's hard to get into. There are two big parking lots and one main road leading out. So it gets backed up easily. It is remarkable how small it actually is as well. There's literally like 20 rows in the OF total.... I remember thinking if I was going to sit in the OF, no matter where I sat, I was taking my glove for protection because any HR could reach the farthest back row. They needed an upgrade pretty bad. Now in terms of people showing up, hopefully more people will turn out with a new stadium. I'm not a Rays person by any means so I can't speak of the people in the area going to games. I just made the trek down a few times to see Longoria and what not. It's easy for them to "sell out" though because their stadium is so small.....

That's great for the area. I live in Orlando now but have been down to the Trop. It is TINY! And on top of that, the parking around it is horrendous. They need a new stadium badly. Very cool news.

Sad part is you guys don't have space for all these guys. You can move a lot of these pieces and still be able to fill them with other prospects. Let alone sign a FA to fill a hole. The talent level in the O's organization minors is envious. Amazing job but now you have too much prospect capital in your books.... Great problem to have.

Player A .267/.318/.690 Player B .201/.266/.596 Player C .258/.312/.722 Player D .212/.301/.635 _______________________ A - Julio Rodriguez B- Tork C- Ozzie Albies D- Corbin Carroll Bad years happen. Carroll was an MVP candidate before the season started. It's way too early to give up and say he's not part of the core going forward......

I'm just glad there's a lot of buzz. A week ago I woulda put a trade at 20% of happening. Now I'm at least up to 40%. (I'm in the trade Skubal crowd btw, just don't think it will actually happen..... [at this point]).

I wonder if I'm the only one that still believes he'll be just fine. He went 1-1 for a reason. I don't think he's a Nick Sinzel.... a .280/.370+/.500+ stat line will do just fine. I could see that still in him. Maybe I'm delusional........

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Nope, I have not been to a AAA game. Thank you for clarifying.

Goodness I hope not. I was at Armando Galleraga's Perfect Non-perfect game. Umps blowing calls is part of the game. Especially with Balls and Strikes. Now I saw a clip where Paul Skenes was able to challenge Balls/Strikes in the minors by Jomboy. THAT would be cool in the majors. If the pitchers wrong, it should count as a balk or something crazy though to limit the challenges.

Do you realize how rare a power throwing Cy young worthy lefty is with 4 years of control? Whens the last one? Randy Johnson? (And yes, Juan Soto is a generational talent). But Skubals on the path. Not to mention, he's going to make whichever team acquires him the front runner for the World Series for the next 2 years (at least). I say that because you pair him and Corbin Burnes as a 1-2 with BAL, who else can give you that good of a 1-2? Chances of you winning a 5 game series go up 10 fold.

Abrams, Wood, Gore and Hassell were ALL top 100 prospects. Gore and Abrams were top 25 at the time.

Didn't Albies and Acuna both sign after like a year+ of service time? Neither one got a contract before they debut. I could totally see Boras signing Holliday and Henderson for all of their arb years plus one or two years of FA. That seems to be the going rate right now.