Longgone
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They have retained all those options
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The Sporting News and Sports Illustrated have sadly become AI driven clickbait
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BPA; Best Player Available for that particular team at that particular point in the draft. Of course need, future need, value, everything is quantified
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He might not make it to 28, but this draft is pretty deep on the defensive line
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Whoever performs is going to play. They have options.
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What are you basing any of this on?
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To me, a good offensive coach takes advantage of his players strengths and attacks the defensive weaknesses, and a really good coach manipulates things to enhance those two things, but you can still be unsuccessful if you don’t have the talent. I don’t know where Shaw ranks in all that, but I trust Holmes and Carpenter do.
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They have players who can play 3b as well as Parades.
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Age is a big factor in athletics in that athletes are still developing into the early 20’s and athletic ability peaks and then begins to wane. With quarterbacks however, the skills necessary to compete are less athletically dependent and so age is less a factor.
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I don’t think age is that much of a factor because quarterbacks are playing well into their 30’s. What teams care about is can they run an offense, read defenses, efficiently distribute the ball, etc.
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Fans always get BPA wrong, it’s not the best player available on some consensus draft board, it’s always been the best player available for that particular team at that particular point in the draft.
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Pretty much everyone you mentioned here is a young, ascending player, for sure, not all of those pan out, but early stats are surely not indicative of future performance.
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Exactly, he probably graded out as a late 1st early 2nd round talent if healthy. If evaluators feel he still has that ability and now has nfl training, then his value will be in the higher ranges, if they’ve seen things that diminished their evaluation, then his value has appropriately dropped.
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Changeup. Changeup. Changeup
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I think you are putting way too much emphasis on how much he has played. Evaluators are going to base his value on what they perceive his abilities to be, and as far as you and I know, they haven’t diminished, but unlike you and I, the actual evaluators actually know.
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What are you basing this on? He has all the projection he had during the draft process, except he’s now healthy and has been trained in a very good system.
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Hooker hasn’t failed or had his shortcomings exposed like those two.
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No idea
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You are evaluated throughout the entire process, every practice, your work in scrimmages, on the scout team, in preseason, it all matters in evaluating your strengths and weaknesses.
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He doesn’t have an MO yet
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I’m not talking about his college performance, I’m talking about his innate abilities and his training in a professional system. What they do in games is just the tip of the iceberg.
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You are making an assumption based on nothing really. His value is based on his abilities, which were hindered by injury at draft time. That is resolved and he has close to 2 years of pro training. That does not make him less valuable. No rational evaluator is going base judgment on something like the Bridgewater situation.
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He has played enough and practiced enough to see the skills he was projected to possess. Regular season games are only a part of your exposure.
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Hooker went in the 3rd. He’d have gone higher if healthy. He’s healthy now and has been coached in a good pro system. He has shown the requisite skills and he has value.
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Why negotiate against yourself?
