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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
For heavens sake, it's not a matter of reasonable. Its a negotiation. It's a lot of demands from the current negotiated agreement with no concessions. What sounds "reasonable" to you is irrelevant .- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
I think there are two main areas that could lead to a resolution without too much disruption of the status quo. One, raise the luxury tax ceiling based on some formulation of revenue, second, find a way to get younger players paid more, without the risk of smaller markets losing control, i.e. performance bonuses or early arbitration, etc.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
Early arbitration, early free agency, eliminating the luxury tax, eliminating draft penalties for signing premium free agents...- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
If it gets to the point where you have to try to force the other side into a concession, instead of bargaining in good faith, you have failed.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
That would be a fair and reasonable conclusion, to be made whole from the previous agreement, and gain some modest improvements. That's far from what is the current position, however.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
And all i am saying is that puts the onus on the players in this go around, since they are the ones with the demands and no concessions, and all negotiations are, by nature, two sided.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
When you are in the position the players are in you really have two choices; settle for smaller incremental gains over time, or put your industry through hell trying to force a concession, which generally results in harming both sides.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
Negotiations are two sided, it is not intended for one side to make demands without reciprocity. In this case the players have many demands, the owners few. Makes it difficult.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
No doubt, however, the point is, they haven't much leverage, but a lot of issues, which doesn't bode well.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
And no one has yet walked away from the table, there is no impasse.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
I think there is a reasonable rationale for the lockout, but I'm not talking about strategy, or who's right or wrong, just that the negotiating position of the players makes this hard for them to gain any major concessions, which may make this difficult to resolve.- 1,851 replies
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LOCKOUT '22: When will we see baseball again?
Longgone replied to Motor City Sonics's topic in Detroit Tigers
This could be a tough one for this reason; yes, it's the owners who have locked the players out, but this one is on the players. Normally negotiations are two sided, one side makes concessions to gain a benefit. In this case the players have many significant demands, while the owners really don't want much to change. They'd like expanded playoffs, but that isn't something the players really oppose. So with significant demands and few concessions to give on the player side, where is the ability to fairly negotiate any appreciable changes?- 1,851 replies
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Catchers of his caliber are rather easily replaced.
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Yes, I think Garneau is the only likely one to go, and probably sign back on a minor league deal.
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Be interesting to see who is non tendered today.
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The guy in chicago though 2019 was pretty damn good. It was just the shortened covid season and the first half of '21 that he got into some kind of funk.
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Small perk; they get to keep their third round draft pick.
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Value is based on projected future performance.
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Give me any one of the five, and give him to me NOW! And give me Jon Gray and I'm good.
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Most players don't age well. The ones who age least well are one dimensional sluggers whose power is based on strength rather than bat speed, and that is not Baez.
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His k-rates from 2016-19 were not egregious, so maybe he got into a bad mechanical habit, or was suffering from a minor injury.
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This is a specious assumption, and no more likely for him than anyone else. He likely won't ever walk much, but the rest is baseless.
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The differences in value among the five are not as great as perception may lead you to believe.
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Only fans would be upset if something great happens, because something slightly greater didn't happen. Any of the five free agent shortstops would be great, you could make a case for all of them being top ten in the league, and all would be huge upgrades. Be happy if they get any of them.
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I wouldn't give any weight to anything reported.