Longgone

Here's why spring training stats mean nothing; first, small samples, you could take a random 40 ab sample from throughout the regular season, and the same player could look like a hall of famer or the biggest piece of crap, neither of which is indicative of his true ability. Secondly, you are dealing with players not yet in shape, don't yet have their timing, may be out of sync implementing mechanical changes, may be dealing with an injury, and they may be facing major leaguers not game ready, or minor leaguers far from the bigs, etc. etc. Spring stats mean nothing.

It's everything they do in games, on the back fields, in practice sessions. It's the mechanical changes and adjustments they have made, overall health and conditioning, mental stamina, everything. It's not results at all, but the estimation of capabilities vs. the competition in providing team needs.

And they are evaluating the progression of abilities throughout the fall and spring, not just games.

If we’ve learned any one thing over the years, it’s that spring training means nothing.

No need to option or outright him, he's not on the 40.

Who cares? It's spring training.

Says the perp.

You guys are connecting imaginary dots.

He's not thinking this through. Non guaranteed years are not an incentive for the players because they're NON GUARANTEED. They benefit the team, not the players, the team can choose to either continue the contract if it's a good value, or cut the player, a win/win for them.

Every player knows that the non guaranteed year(s) are to the teams benefit and not the players, and they will only get them if they earn them

You are saying players, and especially agents, don't understand what the words " not guaranteed" means. It's your understanding that is off.

The fallacy in your thinking is that the renegotiating is somehow onerous, deceptive or unfair to the players. There is no basis for thinking that way, in fact, it is a good and positive indicator.

The only one getting a reputation is you.

So, you admit, there's no pattern.

What pattern, that doesn't apply to Harris, Vatai or Okwara at all, and they did renegotiate Goff.

If the Lions had simply cut those players, like most teams do, you wouldn't have given two thoughts about it. But because they worked out a mutually beneficial arrangement, you somehow find it offensive.

It's not hardball, it's simply a negotiation. If Cominsky, Vatai and Okwara didn't have any problem with it, why should you? If they had a problem with it, they surely would have declined and entered the free market as many others have.

And I'm just saying that you are way off base.

And no one but you has any problem at all with that.

They have spent. It doesn't have to be on something big. It's not prudent to spend all your cap and hamstring yourself.

Where in heaven's name do you get the idea that the Lions are abusing the cap and not spending? That is absurd.

Probably four in the last week.

Awesome, when healthy, which is iffy.

He got a $48 million guarantee. That's the number to focus on. If he'd gotten a 5 year 150 million deal with 48 million guaranteed, it would sound a lot better, but wouldn't be.

Who knows? And who knows if Detroit wants to meet his price. All I said was he's a good fit, can cover both safety positions and nickel.